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  • From: "Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>
  • To: "'Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [internetworkers] *jaw hits floor*
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:10:41 -0400

I'll be there on opening day! Of course I'm a Bush fan but I'm intrigued.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> Of matusiak
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 1:58 PM
> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] *jaw hits floor*
>
> On Jun 15, 2004, at 1:16 PM, Shea Tisdale wrote:
> > Matusiak wrote:
> >> view the classic Bush joke:
> >> http://www.musicforamerica.org/bushjoke
> >
> > I thought the jokes were in poor taste given the situation.
>
> I was playing upon the initial sentiment of Beth:
>
> "If there was any doubt in your mind that Bush has no class,
> taste, sensitivity, respect, or intelligence..."
>
> So I figured readers would see the sarcasm in my commentary,
> but obviously, that was missed.
>
> >> another classic! Bush wipes glasses on woman's sweater video:
> >> http://www.aspirin99.com/videos/Bush_Kleenex.htm
> >
> > I guess if you are a Bush hater, this is something to be concerned
> > with.
> > What I see here is a clip taken out of context. How do you
> know that
> > he didn't ask for something to clean his glasses on and that woman
> > responded by saying to use her sweater? How do you know anything
> > about what is happening? I clean my glasses on my shirt
> all the time.
> > And really, this is such a trivial and meaningless thing to
> spend time
> > on when everyday this administration shows it's disdain for the
> > Constitution and for human rights...But hey, look at this
> video of him
> > cleaning his glasses on someones
> > sweater!!! Sheesh.
>
> Yes - you clean *your* glasses on *your* shirt. I'm sure
> once you start wiping garbage off on other people
> (potentially without their permission), then you will have
> your own spoof site. Bush-hater or not, he shows very little
> concern for "The Little People" here in America. And with
> comments like this "...everyday this administration shows
> it's disdain for the Constitution and for human rights..."
> how is it that you are not misconstrued as a Bush-hater? Sheesh.
>
> >> take a peek at Baghdad:
> >> http://www.aboutbaghdad.com/
> >> *** This film showing TONIGHT ONLY at 7:00 PM; Carolina
> Theater in
> >> Durham
> >> http://www.movieminder.com/showtheater/?tcode=16
> >
> > I wish I could go see this one. The clip was very
> interesting, very
> > well done and appeared very balanced. It appears to be a
> good inside
> > look at the situation there.
> >
> > I wasn't for the war or what is happening now, but I can't help but
> > think, as I heard this very western looking person ask
> questions, that
> > this movie wouldn't have been possible 2 years ago when
> Saddam was in
> > power.
>
> You live in Durham. The movie is in Durham. Does it have to
> play at your house?
>
> >> and don't forget THE MOVIE OF THE SUMMER!!!!
> >> http://www.fahrenheit911.com/
> >> Opens in just 10 days!! Buy your advance tickets now!!! See
> >> multiple shows!!!
> >
> > Can't wait for this one and I'm hoping he really does the
> movie about
> > Tony Blair that he has been talking about doing.
>
> <mocking>
> "Oh gee!! I love Michael Moore and all his great books and
> films!!!
> I certainly can't wait to see him skewer Bush in his new one,
> Fahrenheit 9/11!!"
> </mocking>
>
> Yeah, being tight with Big Man Moore certainly doesn't make
> you look like a Bush-hater. Instead, it makes you look like
> a well-balanced, rational individual.
>
> Also, most reports I've read include MM himself debunking
> that "Blair film" myth. He made an offhand comment at Cannes
> and now the world expects him to make an anti-Blair film, as well.
>
> >> and it looks like the neo-nazis are going to try to prevent
> >> non-violent, civilian Americans from even SEEING this film. Isn't
> >> that what America was founded on? Extreme ignorance, followed by
> >> grotesque hatred and coupled with censorship?!?!
> >>
> >> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1144334/posts
> >> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1139072/posts
> >> http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=4972
> >> http://www.pabaah.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=469
> >> http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1146799/posts
> >>
> >> funny how all the people calling for a boycott have not seen this
> >> film and are promising to never see it. what? can't I make up my
> >> own mind?? the French really seemed to like it!
> >
> > Wow, how different we see things. I read nothing about neo-nazi's,
> > nothing about hatred, nothing about censorship in any of
> these that I
> > looked at.
>
> Dude, you obviously didn't read very far. The Free Republic
> extremists (FReePers or something) are trying to rally people
> to go boycott the theaters and make it
> difficult/uncomfortable/potentially threatening for anyone to
> go see this film. They have said everything under the sun,
> including that Disney/Miramax should not be allowed to
> distribute this film (dumbasses want to "boycott Miramax"
> when in fact they passed on the option to put the film out)
> and that they want to be out there to have a physical
> presence so that Moore filmgoers "would see the anger of the
> FReePers." Doesn't that sound like intimidation to you?
> or Censorship?
>
> > As far as what America was founded upon, isn't this the
> very core of
> > it?
>
> Yeah, but I don't want idiots hurling Coke cans at my head
> because I choose to go see a movie they don't like.
>
> > These citizens are choosing to express their opinion
> against Michael
> > Moore and in support of the current administration and its'
> policies.
> > They are exercising the right to protest, to campaign against
> > something, and to boycott something. Much the same as I
> don't shop at
> > Wal-Mart because I don't like their labor practices, their
> political
> > donations, or the effect they have on towns and cities.
>
> Blah blah blah. These "rights" you hold so dear only apply
> to Americans when they are conducting themselves in a
> non-violent, non-threatening way. If they want to stand
> there with signs and look like jackasses, then fine. If they
> want to come out to "show their anger" and attempt to prevent
> access to the film, then I say "Let Mall Security club their
> dumb asses."
>
> > Why should they see the film if they don't want to? I mean that is
> > sort of like me saying you should shop at Wal-mart before
> you complain
> > about how they treat their employees or boycott them for using
> > underpaid oversees labor.
>
> I'm not saying ANYONE should HAVE to see the film. What I AM
> saying is that I would like free, unrestricted access to go
> see this movie as if I were headed into The Lion King. Also,
> I was being critical of them for stating that this was an
> Anti-American film and should be banned (along with all the
> works of MM) BEFORE ANY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS SEEN THE FILM.
>
> I don't know how to make my points any clearer than that.
>
> >> dave m.
> >>
> >> On Mar 26, 2004, at 7:46 AM, Beth wrote:
> >>
> >>> If there was any doubt in your mind that Bush has no
> class, taste,
> >>> sensitivity, respect, or intelligence...
> >>>
> >>> Bush Pokes Some Fun During Media Dinner By SIOBHAN McDONOUGH
> >>>
> >>> WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush poked fun at his staff, his
> >>> Democratic challenger and himself Wednesday night at a black-tie
> >>> dinner where he hobnobbed with the news media.
> >>>
> >>> Bush put on a slide show, calling it the ``White House
> Election-Year
> >>> Album'' at the Radio and Television Correspondents'
> Association 60th
> >>> annual dinner, showing himself and his staff in some decidedly
> >>> unflattering poses.
> >>>
> >>> There was Bush looking under furniture in a fruitless,
> frustrating
> >>> search. ``Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be
> >>> somewhere,'' he said.
> >>>
> >>> There was Vice President Dick Cheney, a frequent butt of
> gentle Bush
> >>> ribbing, holding his fingers a few inches apart. Bush said,
> >>> ``Whenever you ask him a question, he replies, 'Let's see what my
> >>> little friend says.'''
> >>>
> >>> And there was Bush again, in an odd contortion in front of his
> >>> national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. He said he
> was trying
> >>> to explain to her the foreign policy of Democratic
> challenger John
> >>> Kerry.
> >>>
> >>> Bush showed himself playing cards on Air Force One and
> cracked that
> >>> he was on his way to an international summit and using a special
> >>> deck to help him bone up on the names of the leaders he
> was about to
> >>> meet.
> >>>
> >>> His slide show segued into a somber ending, showing a group of
> >>> special forces troops in Afghanistan at the site where
> they buried a
> >>> piece of the fallen World Trade Center in commemoration
> of the dead
> >>> from Sept.
> >>> 11.
> >>>
> >>> The late NBC News reporter David Bloom, who died in April from an
> >>> apparent blood clot while covering the Iraq war, was
> remembered. His
> >>> wife, Melanie, talked of her husband's passion for journalism.
> >>>
> >>> About 1,500 guests attended the dinner.
> >>>
>
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