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[matusiak <dave AT matusiak.org>]

On Jun 15, 2004, at 1:16 PM, Shea Tisdale wrote:
> Matusiak wrote:
> > view the classic Bush joke:
> >    http://www.musicforamerica.org/bushjoke
>
> I thought the jokes were in poor taste given the situation.

I was playing upon the initial sentiment of Beth:

"If there was any doubt in your mind that Bush has no class, taste, 
sensitivity, respect, or intelligence..."

So I figured readers would see the sarcasm in my commentary, but 
obviously, that was missed.

> > another classic! Bush wipes glasses on woman's sweater video:
> >    http://www.aspirin99.com/videos/Bush_Kleenex.htm
>
> I guess if you are a Bush hater, this is something to be concerned 
> with.
> What I see here is a clip taken out of context.  How do you know that 
> he
> didn't ask for something to clean his glasses on and that woman 
> responded by
> saying to use her sweater?  How do you know anything about what is
> happening?  I clean my glasses on my shirt all the time.  And really, 
> this
> is such a trivial and meaningless thing to spend time on when everyday 
> this
> administration shows it's disdain for the Constitution and for human
> rights...But hey, look at this video of him cleaning his glasses on 
> someones
> sweater!!!   Sheesh.

Yes - you clean *your* glasses on *your* shirt.  I'm sure once you 
start wiping garbage off on other people (potentially without their 
permission), then you will have your own spoof site.  Bush-hater or 
not, he shows very little concern for "The Little People" here in 
America.  And with comments like this "...everyday this administration 
shows it's disdain for the Constitution and for human rights..." how is 
it that you are not misconstrued as a Bush-hater?  Sheesh.

> > take a peek at Baghdad:
> >    http://www.aboutbaghdad.com/
> >    *** This film showing TONIGHT ONLY at 7:00 PM; Carolina Theater in
> > Durham
> >    http://www.movieminder.com/showtheater/?tcode=16
>
> I wish I could go see this one.  The clip was very interesting, very 
> well
> done and appeared very balanced.  It appears to be a good inside look 
> at the
> situation there.
>
> I wasn't for the war or what is happening now, but I can't help but 
> think,
> as I heard this very western looking person ask questions, that this 
> movie
> wouldn't have been possible 2 years ago when Saddam was in power.

You live in Durham.  The movie is in Durham.  Does it have to play at 
your house?

> > and don't forget THE MOVIE OF THE SUMMER!!!!
> >    http://www.fahrenheit911.com/
> >   Opens in just 10 days!!  Buy your advance tickets now!!!  See 
> > multiple
> > shows!!!
>
> Can't wait for this one and I'm hoping he really does the movie about 
> Tony
> Blair that he has been talking about doing.

<mocking>
"Oh gee!!  I love Michael Moore and all his great books and films!!!   
I certainly can't wait to see him skewer Bush in his new one, 
Fahrenheit 9/11!!"
</mocking>

Yeah, being tight with Big Man Moore certainly doesn't make you look 
like a Bush-hater.  Instead, it makes you look like a well-balanced, 
rational individual.

Also, most reports I've read include MM himself debunking that "Blair 
film" myth.  He made an offhand comment at Cannes and now the world 
expects him to make an anti-Blair film, as well.

> > and it looks like the neo-nazis are going to try to prevent
> > non-violent, civilian Americans from even SEEING this film.  Isn't 
> > that
> > what America was founded on?  Extreme ignorance, followed by grotesque
> > hatred and coupled with censorship?!?!
> >
> >    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1144334/posts
> >    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1139072/posts
> >    http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=4972
> >    http://www.pabaah.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=469
> >    http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1146799/posts
> >
> > funny how all the people calling for a boycott have not seen this film
> > and are promising to never see it.  what?  can't I make up my own
> > mind??  the French really seemed to like it!
>
> Wow, how different we see things.  I read nothing about neo-nazi's, 
> nothing
> about hatred, nothing about censorship in any of these that I looked 
> at.

Dude, you obviously didn't read very far.  The Free Republic extremists 
(FReePers or something) are trying to rally people to go boycott the 
theaters and make it difficult/uncomfortable/potentially threatening 
for anyone to go see this film.  They have said everything under the 
sun, including that Disney/Miramax should not be allowed to distribute 
this film (dumbasses want to "boycott Miramax" when in fact they passed 
on the option to put the film out) and that they want to be out there 
to have a physical presence so that Moore filmgoers "would see the 
anger of the FReePers."  Doesn't that sound like intimidation to you?  
or Censorship?

> As far as what America was founded upon, isn't this the very core of 
> it?

Yeah, but I don't want idiots hurling Coke cans at my head because I 
choose to go see a movie they don't like.

> These citizens are choosing to express their opinion against Michael 
> Moore and in
> support of the current administration and its' policies.  They are
> exercising the right to protest, to campaign against something, and to
> boycott something.  Much the same as I don't shop at Wal-Mart because I
> don't like their labor practices, their political donations, or the 
> effect
> they have on towns and cities.

Blah blah blah.  These "rights" you hold so dear only apply to 
Americans when they are conducting themselves in a non-violent, 
non-threatening way.  If they want to stand there with signs and look 
like jackasses, then fine.  If they want to come out to "show their 
anger" and attempt to prevent access to the film, then I say "Let Mall 
Security club their dumb asses."

> Why should they see the film if they don't want to?  I mean that is 
> sort of
> like me saying you should shop at Wal-mart before you complain about 
> how
> they treat their employees or boycott them for using underpaid oversees
> labor.

I'm not saying ANYONE should HAVE to see the film.  What I AM saying is 
that I would like free, unrestricted access to go see this movie as if 
I were headed into The Lion King.  Also, I was being critical of them 
for stating that this was an Anti-American film and should be banned 
(along with all the works of MM) BEFORE ANY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS SEEN 
THE FILM.

I don't know how to make my points any clearer than that.

> > dave m.
> >
> > On Mar 26, 2004, at 7:46 AM, Beth wrote:
> >
> > > If there was any doubt in your mind that Bush has no class, taste,
> > > sensitivity, respect, or intelligence...
> > >
> > > Bush Pokes Some Fun During Media Dinner
> > > By SIOBHAN McDONOUGH
> > >
> > > WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush poked fun at his staff, his
> > > Democratic challenger and himself Wednesday night at a black-tie
> > > dinner where he hobnobbed with the news media.
> > >
> > > Bush put on a slide show, calling it the ``White House Election-Year
> > > Album'' at the Radio and Television Correspondents' Association 60th
> > > annual dinner, showing himself and his staff in some decidedly
> > > unflattering poses.
> > >
> > > There was Bush looking under furniture in a fruitless, frustrating
> > > search. ``Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be
> > > somewhere,'' he said.
> > >
> > > There was Vice President Dick Cheney, a frequent butt of gentle Bush
> > > ribbing, holding his fingers a few inches apart. Bush said, 
> > > ``Whenever
> > > you ask him a question, he replies, 'Let's see what my little friend
> > > says.'''
> > >
> > > And there was Bush again, in an odd contortion in front of his
> > > national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. He said he was trying to
> > > explain to her the foreign policy of Democratic challenger John 
> > > Kerry.
> > >
> > > Bush showed himself playing cards on Air Force One and cracked that 
> > > he
> > > was on his way to an international summit and using a special deck to
> > > help him bone up on the names of the leaders he was about to meet.
> > >
> > > His slide show segued into a somber ending, showing a group of 
> > > special
> > > forces troops in Afghanistan at the site where they buried a piece of
> > > the fallen World Trade Center in commemoration of the dead from Sept.
> > > 11.
> > >
> > > The late NBC News reporter David Bloom, who died in April from an
> > > apparent blood clot while covering the Iraq war, was remembered. His
> > > wife, Melanie, talked of her husband's passion for journalism.
> > >
> > > About 1,500 guests attended the dinner.