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["Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com>]

I have to disagree here Paul.  While a small budget can be a justification
to rate a film higher, it can never be an excuse for why a film sucks.  Many
great films have been made within very small, tight budgets.  For example,
the film The Virgin Suicides was made for less than $50,000.  Roger and Me
was made for even less.  So you might look at those films and say, "Wow!
That was a great film for a small budget independent."

So that is my contention.  Further I contend that having a big budget should
remove any excuse for your film sucking.

And therefore, Event Horizon is the winner.  The film had a budget of
something like 54 million and featured known stars.  And there are great
visuals in the film.  And I believe it has the distinction of being the
first film to accurately represent fire in outer space - the issue being
that a fire in space would behave somewhat like a liquid.  Unfortunately,
they spent $1.95 on the script and about $.99 on the director.

And lastly, I would like to offer a viewing of Event Horizon at my house.
Any takers?




----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Cory" <pwcory AT mindspring.com>
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] really really wrong things :)


> My vote for worst movie ever still goes to "Manos, The Hands of
> Fate."[1] It was made by a Texas fertilizer salesman (producer, writer,
> director and star), in color, God Help Us in 1966,[2] and some how,
> some way actually got distributed. Suffice to say Hal P. Warren, the
> auteur behind Manos never really left his industry of expertise.
> Manos, for me, is a three drink movie even in the Mystery Science
> Theater 3000 version.
>
>
> [1] I have not seen "Event Horizon," so it is possible that I would
> find it to be more horrendous than Manos.  However, every frame of
> Manos is crap - I find it hard to believe that somewhere in Event
> Horizon there isn't at least one frame, perhaps an establishing shot of
> some sort, free of dialogue and action, or even the first frame of the
> movie, that doesn't rise to the level of mediocre. Ihave seen Plan 9 -
> it was marginally better than Manos in my opinion, although there's
> easily room for argument.
>
> [2] You could make a case for excluding Manos on the grounds that was
> low budget and starred nobody of note. However, despite these
> limitations, Warren succeeded in making a world class stinker.
>
> Paul
>
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