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  • From: "Bill Geschwind" <geschwin AT email.unc.edu>
  • To: "'Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [internetworkers] in flight broadband wireless
  • Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:51:23 -0400

I might be in the minority here, but I don't see this particular service
as a "bad thing." In the article it stated that 50 to 80 passengers per
flight used the service on planes that seat up to 250 passengers. This
is a service that is being offered for you to use if you want it, but
you always have the option of not using it if you don't want to. I have
been on several very long flights before where I would have welcomed
another source of entertainment, and provided that this service was
reasonably priced, I probably would have used it.

Since this service was designed by Boeing, I am confident that it was
tested to ensure that it will not interfere with the other onboard
systems to an extent that it will cause a plane to crash. If it does
prove to cause catastrophic interference with the operation of the
aircraft, you can bet that it will be ripped right back out in a
heartbeat before the planes will be allowed to go back up again.

Do I NEED to be online 24/7/365? No. But I like having the option of
being online whenever I want to, and when I want quiet time I can just
turn the stuff off.

Even though I might not have agreed with the content of this
"rant/display of opinion," I do welcome it and hope that you keep 'em
coming.

- Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:33 PM
To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] in flight broadband wireless

! -
I would like to give my support for this rant..er uh strong display of
opinion and thoughtfulness.
REALLY!
I believe that strong thought out opinions can provide useful counter
points
to the bland, quite, Politically Correct, and purposefully inoffensive
ideas
expressed by academia and bad call in talk radio shows.

If it's too radical for you then just disagree. I for one agree with
allot
said here.
Keep it up man!
-Brian

> to further elucidate my point and potentially quell any flames being
> currently composed, i will attempt to explain.
>
> what is most bothersome about this "news tidbit" is the fact that this
> development highlights yet another invasion of our lives by
technology.
> i am not looking forward to a time when we can never be away from a
> GPS sensor or a Wireless Access Point, or a freakin' cell tower.
>
> i think it is ridiculous that everything must be constantly
accelerated
> (for what purpose?) and that we, as inferior "human machines," are
> expected to keep up with this pace.
>
> doesn't anyone treasure a quiet moment away from the buzz anymore?
> aren't you tired of being sold to?
> is there no place for sanctity in the future?
> are we to be "on" all the time, like our servers in the data center?
>
> i am not against advancements in technology, nor am i anxiously
> awaiting any planes being brought down by jerk-offs, but i *am* more
> interested in future outcomes for the human race than i am for
> increasing speed, profits, and market share.
>
> the promise of all this futuristic technology was that we would
> eventually gain the benefit of simple lives. simple lives led at a
> relaxed pace because all the minutiae was taken care of by
robo-drones.
> well, guess who is the robo-drone now?
>
> i think it is Prince whom is attributed with saying "Be on top of
> technology, before technology is on top of you" or something to that
> effect. and to tie in a character quote from the last Tom Robbins
book
> i read (_Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates_) about advertising
> "The more I see, the less I want to buy."
>
> are you more than a credit card validation strip?
> is your life a collection of things?
> do you really need to be online 24/7/365?
>
> what could you actually live without?
>
> just inane matusiak questions for a dreary friday...
>
> On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 12:30 PM, David R. Matusiak wrote:
>
>> i've been clearly commanded in the past to extinguish all "electronic
>> devices" because simply having them turned on would "cause imminent
>> danger to the craft" (i.e. the plane would instantly crash into a
>> mountain or something).
>>
>> now they are reversing this 20+ years of bullshit because they want
>> more money. crazy how this capitalism thing works! suddenly there
is
>> no radio frequency interference because some CEO wants a bigger
annual
>> bonus.
>>
>> hogwash. complete hogwash. now i will sit patiently and await the
>> first wireless hacker terrorist plane being brought down attack.
then
>> i want to hear an explanation from the same bastards pushing this
idea
>> now.
>>
>> "Markets!! They are all just Markets!!"
>>
>> On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 11:26 AM, ids AT idisplay.com wrote:
>>
>>> Internetworkers, fyi
>>> "Is Web access Lufthansa's hot ticket?"
>>> http://news.com.com/2100-1039-998282.html?tag=fd_top
>>>
>>> "The airline (Lufthansa German Airlines) has been testing equipment
>>> and services from Connexion by Boeing, the wireless technology
>>> subsidiary of the aerospace giant. For the past three months,
>>> passengers on 140 Lufthansa flights have been able to use their
>>> laptops to access the Internet at broadband speeds.
>>>
>>> Between 50 and 80 passengers per flight used the service, according
>>> to preliminary results of the trial run. A typical Lufthansa plane
>>> can seat 250 passengers. Web traveling passengers were "doing lots
of
>>> streaming video" and even using the Web to make phone calls, said
>>> Terrance Scott, a Connexion by Boeing spokesman.
>>>
>>> ...Many companies have yet to see profits in providing customers
with
>>> wireless Internet service. But Connexion by Boeing enjoys an
>>> advantage its competitors don't have: a captive, antsy audience.
>>> Boredom, Boeing executives believe, can pay. Revenue from such a
>>> service could be between $5 billion to $8 billion annually, the
>>> company estimates."
>>>
>>> Ed W
>>> ---
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