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- From: Ron Thigpen <rthigpen AT nc.rr.com>
- To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question
- Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 09:43:22 -0400
Gina Norman wrote:
Each cassette tape had some capacity to hold data -- just like a CD-R can
hold 650MB, a cassette could hold _some_ amount.
What was that amount? (Assuming I mean a 45 mins./side cassette).
Those cassette tapes weren't being used to store digital data, at least in native form.
Remember how you hooked up that device? It was a connection to the microphone input! I know you must have gotten curious and listened to one of those tapes. They had a kind of high-pitched, warbly howl to them. Remind you of anything?
Yep, between the cassette recorder and the computer there was a *modem*, modulating for recording, demodulating for playback. Depending on the time period we're talking about, state of the art for modems would have been somewhere 300 and 1200 baud. There'd be limitations on recording and playback due to the medium, as well. Pre chromium dioxide and Dolby B, cassette tapes didn't do very well with high frequencies, and were also very noisy.
(standard disclaimer for likelihood of bad math...)
Optimistically assuming 300 baud
stored bits ~= (300 bits/sec * 60 sec/min * 45 min) = 810,000
in kilobits = 810,000/1,024 ~= 791 kb
in kilobytes = 791/8 = 98 kB
I'd guess these device were actually doing maybe a half to a third of that. I remember waiting for what seemed like the better part of an hour for my small BASIC programs to load and record. But, hey, it beat the crap out of re-keying every time and I was damn glad to have it.
Converting to mp3 filesize terms, at 128kbps recording rate:
791 kb/128kbps ~= 6.18 seconds
Even if you were getting 1200 baud and used both sides of a 90 minute tape, you'd still only be able to store about 50 seconds.
Quod erat demonstrandum, analog is king.
--rt
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Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question
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Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question,
Gina Norman, 08/05/2002
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Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question,
Tanner Lovelace, 08/05/2002
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Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question,
Gina Norman, 08/05/2002
- RE: [internetworkers] Dumb question, Bill Geschwind, 08/05/2002
- Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question, David Minton, 08/05/2002
- RE: [internetworkers] Dumb question, Bill Geschwind, 08/05/2002
- RE: [internetworkers] Dumb question, Gina Norman, 08/06/2002
- Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question, Scott Russell, 08/06/2002
- RE: [internetworkers] Dumb question, David R. Matusiak, 08/06/2002
- RE: [internetworkers] Dumb question, K. Jo Garner, 08/06/2002
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Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question,
Gina Norman, 08/05/2002
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Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question,
Tanner Lovelace, 08/05/2002
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Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question,
Gina Norman, 08/05/2002
- Re: [internetworkers] Dumb question, Ron Thigpen, 08/06/2002
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