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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Wow, it worked great, except for one mishap.

I set it up just after 7a/m and started capturing the early rays coming over 
the mountain.
Within an hour or so the temp was 220 degrees.
While that was heating up, I mixed up a bunch of chili ingredients and tossed 
them into two lided pots, and place them in the solar oven (box style).  
I needed to turn the oven slightly about once an hour to keep the sun well 
focused, and adjust the solar reflectors as needed as the sun got higher in 
the sky.

By midday, the oven was just over 300 degrees. 

That's when the mishap happened.  I guess the one pot was a little too full, 
and the beans were a-boiling inside.  The lid popped off and some of the 
beans and liquid boiled out.... so I had to open up the box, remove 
everything (yes it was hot as an oven in there...) and clean up the spill.

The oven was open long enough (and it was cold outside) that interior 
temperature dropped to 100 degrees.  But I put the food right back in, and 
wallah, about an hour later the temp was back up to 300 degrees.

I opened the box one more time to put in some turkey and corn on the cob, to 
heat up for a late lunch.  I didn't add any water (there was just a little 
bit of moisture on the corn, which I thawed from the freezer overnight.) The 
corn came out perfect.  The turkey came out totally moist, not dry at all,,,, 
much better results than re-heating in a microwave for sure.  

And get this,,,,,,,,,, according to the directions.......... besides all the 
other benefits of cooking solar (no energy, great flavor from slow cooking, 
easy to use, can't start a fire, or burn the food,,,,,,,,, it says,,,, 

,,,, and I'm  not making this up,,,,,,

"Solar energy is................... the ultimate medicine for manly vigor and 
a glorious skin complexion."


So all you men, better run out and order a solar oven, and make your women 
beautiful.... 



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Winery !!! yes, thanks, there is one on the way to the dairy farm.  
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I will give that pounding a try and see what happens.    

This a/m I put the solar oven out to catch the early rays at 7:15.  It was 27 
degrees outside, yet 45 mins later the oven temp was already 200 degrees.  I 
find that simply amazing.




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t-posts are those metal posts folks pound in the ground.

No-climb is a type of wire fencing.

And, yes, you can make a type of twine out of yucca.  You pound it and it 
will become a lot of long fibers.  You pull them apart and then braid them. 
Kinda like French braiding.  You can probably find something about it in 
cultural stuff for the Aztecs and historical things.

My tribe used willow roots, bear grass (related to yucca) and the wild iris 
that grow in our area.

Any wineries around your area?  They should be pruning just about now.  You 
could ask for the prunings.  They make great stuff when woven together.

Lynda
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t-posts?
no-climb?
speak "city" !!!
LOL

I don't want to have to re-buy stuff each year.

I was talking to someone yesterday about yucca cactus here, and how much use 
the native indians made of them, which struck me funny because just the 
other day I was wondering if there was some way to cut them and braid some 
kind of ropey-vine for beans to climb.


OT, there is an interesting program on TV about home birthing vs hospital. 
NYC hospital are now on average over 40% CSection (that is insane) and the 
rest of the nation isn't far behind? Why, turn over those beds faster for 
hopsital profits, and some Drs. attitude that they can't get sued if they 
section birth... Geez. They just showed Rickie Lane giving birth at home in 
a tub. My granny was a mid-wife and would be horrified if she saw this 
program. Modern medicine with all the drugs and other non-sense, birth 
defects, suctioning babies out to speed up things so they can get home for 
dinner etc. The world has gone crazy, I'm convinced of that.... LOL.


All of the above, Leslie. Beans will climb on anything that will hold still
long enough for them to get a grip on it. I was gifted with a few old rolls
of chicken wire and that's what I've been using the last couple of years.
Works just fine. However, it is kinda saggy, so I've had to use more
t-posts than I would have if I used the old roll of no-climb that I have.

Lynda
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From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>


I would like to plant more pole beans this year, and try again to grow them
as a "hedge" to shade my east side from the scorching summer sun.

Last year I used string hanging down for them to climb. That became a
tangled mess. What else can I use that I wouldn't have to throw away at the
end of the season? Can they climb metal? How about old plastic coated wire?
Chicken wire?



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"yellow head high"?


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> >Can they climb metal?  
Since you mentioned "scorching summer sun", one caution is that if you are 
n a very hot climate, the metal can heat up enough to damage the vines.
We don't get that scorching here, so I gather saplings and branches 12 to 
4 feet long, an inch or so in diameter.  Along a 4' field fence I weave the 
oles into the wire and the beans climb up the fence and then keep going to 
he top of the poles.  The beans that are within reach of the ground or step 
adder are picked off as snap beans and the ones too far up are left to dry 
or shell beans.
Pole beans will produce all season if they are kept picked, but when the 
ver tall vines matrue seeds at the top, it signals the vine to die.  When the 
eaves are yellow head high, I plant more beans at the base and by the time 
he ones at the top are through, new vines are creeping up the old haulms.  
' ve gotten four crops in the same spot some years by which time the spent 
aulms are a thick mat and ready to be taken down for mulch.
Don't forget that if you overproduce beans, they are excellent animal feed.
James</HTML>
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