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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

 Oh !  good points on the yellowing leaves.  

The yucca cactus sticks (just picture a closet hanger rod that grows out of 
the top of a cactus,,,, ).............  I used some of those last year, but 
they aren't tall enough.  (about 6')

Maybe I could figure out a way to tee-pee them taller.

I love beans, green and all kinds of dried,,,,,,,,, I just got real tired of 
bending over and picking bush beans last year and was happy when I had enough 
canned for a year to let them go to dried stage.... and darn,,, don't you 
know after I picked the dried beans,,, they went and flowered not one more 
time, but two more times?  LOL.  I know there is a lot of seed in the garden 
still, so I'll be picking them as weeds since I'm rotating beans to a 
different garden this year.


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Subject: Re: [Homestead] bean trelises



> >Can they climb metal?  

Since you mentioned "scorching summer sun", one caution is that if you are 
in a very hot climate, the metal can heat up enough to damage the vines.

We don't get that scorching here, so I gather saplings and branches 12 to 
14 feet long, an inch or so in diameter.  Along a 4' field fence I weave the 
poles into the wire and the beans climb up the fence and then keep going to 
the top of the poles.  The beans that are within reach of the ground or step 
ladder are picked off as snap beans and the ones too far up are left to dry 
for shell beans.

Pole beans will produce all season if they are kept picked, but when the 
over tall vines matrue seeds at the top, it signals the vine to die.  When 
the 
leaves are yellow head high, I plant more beans at the base and by the time 
the ones at the top are through, new vines are creeping up the old haulms.  
I' ve gotten four crops in the same spot some years by which time the spent 
haulms are a thick mat and ready to be taken down for mulch.

Don't forget that if you overproduce beans, they are excellent animal feed.

James</HTML>
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I wrote this before James posted his excellent Tipi post, but had an ISP
glitch..anyway, here goes...

Bamboo canes serve the same purpose, but any long branch, saplings, or
general sticks  (7' long or so) will do.  If space is short, I just
collect the sticks from the woods, use some baling twine to tie them at
the top and grow my beans tipi style.  Depending on the soil and the
diameter of the pole, I plant 6-10 beans per pole.  When the bean vines
get about a foot long, I just make sure they are close to the pole and
they just vine on their own.
But if I am growing a lot, I use jute for 'string' and just compost it.
  I really don't understand your problem.
Here is what we did...imagine this..
Remember the monkey bars when you were a kid?  Imagine them without the
hand rungs at the top.  You basically have 4 legs and poles at the top
to connect the end poles, a skinny, 2 ft wide long, 10 or 12 feet long
rectangle(or however long your bamboo is-you might want to add a center
support).  At the bottom, about 4 inches off the ground, add two more
long poles to parallel the top poles.  Brace it as needed.  We made 6 of
these, 7 feet tall.  THEN, take the roll of string and tie it at the
bottom rung, then up, around and then down and around all along the
length of the rig on both sides and the ends.  You plant your beans
under the bottom pole, just to the inside and the vines quickly find the
jute.  Alternatively, you could wait until the plants are 8 inches tall
or so and just wrap the jute around the plant itself, but in high winds
I've had planted uprooted doing that, so I prefer the other way.

At the end of the season, just cut or pull the vines and jute, toss the
mess to your chickens/goats/pigs/compost.  Save and reuse the frame, or
disassemble, whatever...

B


Marie McHarry wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I don't want to have to re-buy stuff each year.
>
> When I was a child and the earth was young, we used to use willow
> branches. With metal supports I thought hot summer sun might fry the
>  vines. Am I wrong on that.
>
> Marie, in Central Illinois where willow is extremely easy to come by
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