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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Yes, I was carefuly with my squash planting last year for that reason.  I 
made 3 different gardens far apart, and have plans for a 4th location this 
year, I just need to put in the water line down to that area this spring.
 
A long time ago there was another garden about 300' away (maybe 20 years 
ago), but the water lines down there are messed up.  That is a nice spot also.
 
 
I'm going to plant the harvested spaghetti squash seed too........ I think 
orangetti was the original...  It doesn't much matter what comes out - I 
figure it will be good to eat...
 
 
That's what I've done in the past, let the onions (& carrots) overwinter 
if I wanted seed. But usually I just buy onion sets each year as my 
greenhouse has limited capacity. I get them from Brown's Omaha in east 
Texas.

Surprises--that's certainly one of the fun aspects of planting hybrid 
seed! It would be an interesting experiment to further plant those 
plants seed and see what you get.

Also be aware, even if you buy heirloom seed those plants will 
cross-pollinate and you will then have your own hybrid seed the next 
season! You can get around this several ways. You can plant just one 
heirloom variety of each vegetable, you can grow them really far apart 
(some species this might be miles though), in warmer climates like ours 
with long growing seasons you can offset your plantings (depending on 
species) where they won't be blooming at the same time, or you can build 
a tent and hand pollinate (if necessary) a couple of each plants.

Speaking of squash, there are 4 species, so you can safely grow one of 
each type and not have crossed seed:
C. pepo (Zucchini, Crookneck, Scallop, Delicata)
C. maxima (Pumpkins, Hubbard)
C. mixta (Cushaws)
C. moschata (Butternuts, Japanese)

Hope this helps.

--Sage


Leslie wrote:
> Yes,,,, I am definitely switching to heirlooms only.
>
> Although, I definitely had a very pleasant surprise crop from a hybrid seed 
> that I planted.  I took a seed from a yellow spaghetti squash and planted 
> it.... it grew 2 different fruits.... the yellow spaghetti squash, and 
> these huge "orangetti" squash, which were even better.  They were the size 
> of pumpkins and were slightly sweeter in taste.  It's just a lot of 
> squash..... per each fruit.
>
> I will plant those 2 onions (hybrid onions) to practice/learn how to 
> harvest onion seed,,,, and meanwhile order heirlooms for my main crop and 
> harvesting next year.
>
> Q.  Last year I saw an onion grower not harvest his crop.  Last winter we 
> had freezing nights, but not as many as this year so far.  This spring the 
> onions regrew and I saw a lot of flower heads.    So I'm wondering if I can 
> just leave a few onion (heirlooms) overwinter next winter to get my seed 
> crop for the following year.
>
>
>
>
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> From: Sage Austin | Eureka! Design <eureka AT hctc.net>
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 10:47:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] onion question
>
> Nope, I'm too far south and west for any snow melt. We are high in the 
> hills at the headwaters of three of Texas' rivers. If it doesn't fall 
> here to begin with we aren't going to see it.
>
> I think you were mentioning in an earlier post some of what you planted 
> was hybrid seed (not open-pollinated heirloom), so I thought I'd point 
> out that if you save seed from these plants what you will get when you 
> grow them out won't be true to the original plant, but a mix of that 
> plant's crossed heritage. If you are going to become a seed saver, which 
> it sounds like you already have a great interest, you might consider 
> buying heirloom seed in the future.
>
> --Sage
>
> Leslie wrote:
>  
>> Well, hopefully your underground water will be replenished in time from 
>> heavy snow melting north of you at some point.  When I was driving home 
>> from Chicago (which had a lot of snow & ice),,,, it seemed like the whole 
>> state off Arkansas was under water.  There was a lot of flooding all over 
>> the place.  I wouldn't have thought of some of the areas as flood areas.  
>> It was sure strange.
>>  
>> There are many days when I only use 5 gallons of water in the winter.  But 
>> that is only because it is just me, and I can do things in a way I might 
>> not do if I were more than one person.  I think it would be hard to find a 
>> like minded person !
>>  
>> Darn !!! I pulled out all the carrots, unless I missed some.  I'll have to 
>> remember to plants some in a separate area next year.
>>    
>
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Anyone heard this before?

I was a child and had never heard that before...

Passed from child to child... "if you kill someone you have to pay
for their gravestone".



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