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["Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>]

Drew, I took the quotes out of your e-mail.  I credited them to you because 
you wrote them.

And, I don't see how you come to the conclusion that data from the 80s is 
somehow 'now' manipulated to suit the current admin OR Gore.  The data and 
the adjustments were made in the 80s.  That would be under Reagan and Bush 
Sr.  So, I guess, somehow those Reagan wanted the info destroyed so that the 
scientists 'now' could use it to help Dem candidates?

The original data that the scientists collected is gone.  NOT the data at 
the places where they collected it.  ANYONE, any scientist can go and 
recollect the data if they want to disprove what this particular bunch are 
saying.

Plus, I still don't get the whole worry over the politicians since you are 
talking data collected over a period of a whole bunch of presidents and 
parties in power that didn't have even the vaguest similarities as to 
beliefs.  Do you seriously think the data has been done and undone numerous 
times to suit each admin?

Are you worried that Reagan and Nixon twisted their arms so that they came 
up with data that you don't like now?  Cause that's when they did their data 
collection.  I mean, that's when they came up with their methods of 
normalizing data that had been collected from various and sundry places uses 
widely disparent methods.

Lynda
--"I'm fascinated by the hard line you're drawing over religion -- It gets
used too much, as an excuse, a fall guy, a weapon, a con.  A lot of people,
maybe most, don't mean it except when it suits them."  Dallas
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From: <DSanner106 AT aol.com>


> Lynda,
>    I didn't say anything about what you are accrediting to  me below, and
> it is not what the director said on his BBC america interview.  Just to 
> jump
> into it anyway though......  The original data was destroyed,  the product
> of data entry, not copies of the originals is all that remains.  Those
> numbers now on file received "treatment" and are work product, not 
> original
> data. That much he admitted when questioned. It matters not one bit 
> whether it
> was Thursday or thirty years ago either, as it still means today we  are
> basing these claims on data that is not original and pure. If you don't
> believe that scientists would twist things up a bit if it meant a steady 
> stream
> of research dollars, and if you do not believe politicians would work hand 
> in
> hand with scientists that would cheat, then you are never going to
> understand  why these admissions, and the leaked emails are very 
> important. We are
> supposed  to be able to believe in what scientists tell us, they are
> supposed to use the  scientific method do get their answers and tell us 
> when they
> are merely  guessing. It matters no one bit who is right or wrong here, 
> but
> the scientists  who wrote of manipulating data to support their claims, 
> and
> worked hard to block  publications of their peers that disagreed should be
> fired. This is the data  genius, internet inventor Gore used to base his
> schlocumentary on..... By the  way, did you see him on TV two nights ago 
> claiming
> the earth is millions of  degrees just a short distance below the
> surface???? hilarious.