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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

.....Seed-gate?   For control of the world's seed supply?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AP-IMPACT-Monsanto-seed-apf-4027376931.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=5&asset=&ccode=


"Monsanto's methods are spelled out in a series of confidential commercial 
licensing agreements obtained by the AP. "



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Homestead] Climate-Gate


Now it will be interesting to see what comes of the latest rumor, the
reports that scientists from the E. Aglia Climatic Research Unit have
admitted to destroying the raw data used to arrive at their conclusions,
which means other scientists can not check their work.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece
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They have always been researchers who will cheat.   Yes, there is money
involved here (research grants).   However, I really DO NOT think that it is
so systemic that even ONE completely corrupts group (which I cannot say that
this one actually is...) is enough to taint the overall conclusion.

For me, the proverbial straw was the release of the nuclear sub North Pole
ice measurements from the late 50's, compared to modern ice measurements.
Of course, Larson A, Larson B, North slope land changes didn't hurt the
cause.

Chris