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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Sorry for your trouble,,,,
 
but I couldn't help laughing out loud in my perverted way.........
 
"and this is the same government that is going to fix medicine, fix social 
security, and fix the auto industry, and fix the banking sector.............."
 
Repeat after me, "and I believe in the tooth fairy..."
 

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com> wrote:


From: Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com>
Subject: [Homestead] My "Black Locust" trees
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Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:45 PM


I'm glad it's too late to call the forestry dept. tonight. I ordered 100
Black Locust trees from them last winter and planted them out. When I
planted them, I thought that they were really wimpy trees, they were tiny.
But, the cost was low so I didn't complain to them.
The only labeling was the receipt that was in the box with them. It said 100
black locust.

When they came out and started growing, I thought that they looked weird.
The leaves, black locust has a lot of little leaflets, these trees have 3
leaflets. Anyway summer has been busy, I've kept the grass mowed down around
them and that's about all. I figured maybe seedlings leaves are different.

I noticed last week that they were blooming with purple flowers. Now, I know
that black locust blooms in May and blooms white.

I did some research and the "trees", I've been caring for and dug all those
holes are Lezpedeza bicolor. It's listed as an invasive on lots of web
sites. It's planted for wildlife cover and feed. The forestry department has
it listed on their website as something they sell.

I'll be on the phone with them tomorrow. Now I need to research this plant I
have growing. At least I remember where they are and it looks like something
the goats will keep down if it's an invasive. I'm hoping it's something that
I can decide to keep and let grow in the understory of the black locust
trees I plant there, maybe this fall.

Live and learn.

Rob - Va
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I was invited to participate in a local area town hall via phone meeting on 
health care.
 
FYI, the Rep. took a poll.................. and learned that 49% of the 
people "invited" completely object to Gov't-Care.
 
Poll Results, Question was what is your priority....
 
In favor of Gov't providing health care for everyone - 21%
In favor of Gov't cracking down and forcing all healthcare providers and 
related to lower costs - 21%
In favor of Gov't improving heatlh care - 9%
In favor of keeping the system as it is........... 49%
 
Not lying.

Rep. Harry Teague's conf call 8/11/2009.
 
 
 
The way I read portions of the bill on end-of-life... it seems the gov't will 
force doctors to basically perform a legal service,,, i.e. advise patients to 
get a living will, etc.  And the questionable parts of the bill that seem to 
be the source of the government mandated end-of-life issues is, to me, it 
reads that IF one doesn't have a living will or there is no Proxy (a person 
legally acting on the behalf), then the authorized medical staff gets decide, 
but only in accordance with state laws................. Push in the plug, or 
pull the plug.  (page 429 of the 1017 page bill).
 
The alleged "Representative" didn't know about the clause on real-time access 
to personal financed and electronic transfer to pay (see pages 58-59).  His 
answers led me to believe he is only representing the party line.......... 
not the people in his area.
 
 

 

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I don't think there should be any umbrella bills.  PERIOD! One premise, one 
bill.  We need insurance reform.  It needs its own clear and concise bill. 
We need Medicare/Medicaid reform with heavy emphasis on closing loopholes 
and prosecuting WITH stiff penalties (loss of license if born here, deported 
if not born here [btw scream profiling but the facts are the facts, the % of 
foreign born "profiteers" is far higher than the % of "natural born" citizen 
fraud).  We need a network of well-staffed (not graduated 303 in a class of 
304 or a bunch of FNPs and PAs) clinics with a sliding scale for folks who 
don't have insurance.  Everyone gets Medicaid or Medicare who don't have 
insurance, if they should os choose, with a buy in and share of cost 
depending on ability to pay.

We don't need 53 new bureaucracies.  We don't need stupid things like 
marriage counseling by a psychiatrist or psychologist for folks in a convo. 
We don't need, we don't need, we don't need about covers the whole bill.

Lynda
The press corp is fact-adverse but very fable friendly.

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> That too.  But the amophisms, says I, are not so much in individual
> vagueries but rather in saying one thing in one section and the opposite 
> in
> another.  You are probably familiar with Claire Wolfe's 'You are Probably 
> and
> Outlaw' series in Backwoods magazine.  The premise being that there are so 
> many
> Byzantine and contradictory laws, you cannot help be be breaking some of 
> them
> just in your day to day affairs.  Then the aurthorities have the option of
> selectively enforcing them or not giving them carte blache to harass you 
> if
> they choose .... or not.
>
> Like that, the purpose of a 1000 page bill like this one is so that once 
> it
> is passed, you can call up and enforce whatever bits and pieces of it you
> want and ignore the rest.  It's like a big box of Legos, once you have 
> such a
> convoluted bill passed, you can build whatever reality out of it you 
> choose.
>
> Not gonna happen, but my take would be to allow the Prez and Congress to
> write whatever sort of health care bill they like ..... you have fifty 
> pages
> of no less than 10 point type and that's it.  Thirty maybe.

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I couldn't agree more on the major significance of those tiny words in 
legaleze !
 
I've seen motions get denied based on one little word in the law in a case 
I'm following, and of course the masses don't have reading comprehension 
skills, therefore they believe that the judge was paid off, etc. because they 
can't understand the law, and in fact, even use the very laws that knock out 
their motions as the very reasons a judge should support them.... dumb....
 
You wrote, "This what they are counting on!"
 
 
WHO IS "THEY"................. Because "they", our elected slippery ones 
haven't even read the bill, therefore, who is the "they" that wrote the 
bill.... who stands to gain from this?
 

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This what they are counting on!

Lynda




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I was thinking the same thing.

Mine has noticeable, very identifiable different personalities.  To my 
knowledge though, health care staff at the State Mental didn't notice.  But 
then you have to be around him a lot to notice.  At least one of "hims" 
doesn't know me.... its weird.
 
I did ask him one time (after he wiped out nearly an entire weeks worth of my 
meals when I invited him for dinner) how many people he was eating 
for............. he thought about it for a while, and then said six.  There 
are more than six that I know of though.  One I consider very dangerous.... 
 
 
I just heard a funny that is allegedly on TV:
 
Dennis Miller on Pelosi, "She is the only politician I know of that if on a 
voting ticket you leave the space next to her name blank, they assume you 
voted for her."
 
 
 

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Thanks, Leslie.  Funny, just another thing we have in common.

Leslie wrote:
> On schizophrenia, my brother has that.  It is a permanently disabled
> type of diagnosis.  After an involuntarily commitment (initiated by
> police), on release, the social workers informed me that he would
> qualify for SSD.  My mom just filled out some forms, and I believe
> there is a verification process.
> 
> He has rarely worked in his life (just on/off from 18-20) as he is
> truly unable to hold a job, even back then when the disease wasn't as
> bad as now.  There is a form that a guardian fills out that the SSA
> sends out, to continue confirming that he is Perm. Disabled.


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MPD is separate from schizophrenia, but in some cases, can accompany it.
Was your brother abused or traumatized?
Luckily, I don't think my stepsister has that component.

I've always had an interest in schizophrenia and it's causes.  I
personally believe that there is a genetic component that is activated
by life trauma, real or perceived.

There is a new TV drama called Mental that is rather interesting.  The
lead character is a psychiatrist and the subplot is that his twin sister
is schizophrenic.  Each week the show explores some aspect of some
mental illness, from PTSD to past lives, and of course NAMI (National
Alliance for the Mentally Ill) gets lots of play in the commercial
sponsorship.

My stepsister was here a few months ago and she seemed good.  I had not
seen her in a number of years.  We are two months apart in age and we
were very close as kids.  Mother even dressed us as twins.  Anyway, we
went out to lunch and I think we both enjoyed that.  After she was back
in Arkansas a month later, she got into some kind of Mickey Mouse
altercation with her 'roommate' and they both ended up back on the psych
ward.  It is a roller coaster, for her, and for the rest of us.  I'm
sure you know.  At least this time the cops weren't involved.

B



Leslie wrote:
> I was thinking the same thing.
>
> Mine has noticeable, very identifiable different personalities.  To
> my knowledge though, health care staff at the State Mental didn't
> notice.  But then you have to be around him a lot to notice.  At
> least one of "hims" doesn't know me.... its weird.
>
> I did ask him one time (after he wiped out nearly an entire weeks
> worth of my meals when I invited him for dinner) how many people he
> was eating for............. he thought about it for a while, and then
> said six.  There are more than six that I know of though.  One I
> consider very dangerous....
>
>
> I just heard a funny that is allegedly on TV:
>
> Dennis Miller on Pelosi, "She is the only politician I know of that
> if on a voting ticket you leave the space next to her name blank,
> they assume you voted for her."
>
>
>
>

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