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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: Jeanne Driese <jeanne13 AT earthlink.net>, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] New RFID machines
  • Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:51:00 -0800 (PST)

I like you last line. Why do they need to track us if we don't have anything
"they" would want anyway. But, yet they do. I'm glad you enjoyed canada.
If you keep your passport in an aluminum casing, about the same thickness as
a normal tin-foil hat, it should be fine <G> . ......bobford


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--- On Mon, 11/24/08, Jeanne Driese <jeanne13 AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Jeanne Driese <jeanne13 AT earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] New RFID machines
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 7:39 AM
> When I went on a garden trip this past July I went onto
> Canada and so had to have a passport, I was not going to
> give up a trip of a life time, so indeed I do have the chip,
> I was told it was so the time spent at the border would be
> quick, as a machine would read the passport instead of
> people asking me all kinds of questions. It seems that my
> being poor will be a big help in keeping everyone away fro
> me...all "they" will have to do is look at all the
> info they have on me and decide I am pretty worthless. One
> wonderful benefit to being poor, at least poor by their
> standards! :)))
> Jeanne
> tnhillwoman
> North East TN zone 6
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bob ford
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:48 AM
> Subject: [Homestead] New RFID machines
>
>
> This is a new article on some new machines being added
> (one at the border in my homestate). My wife just ordered
> her new passport, and even though she had her old passport
> with her (and the gov't took it) the application /
> interview was much more intensive than in the past. When
> she receieves it, it will be rfid embedded. Mine comes up
> very soon.
>
> This excerpt in the article stood out " Consumer
> privacy expert Katherine Albrecht says the chips create the
> "potential for a whole surveillance network to be set
> up." She says police could use them to find criminals,
> abusive husbands to find their wives, and stores to track
> customers."....
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> A U.S. government official places a new U.S. passport
> with an embedded electronic chip into a book printer.
>
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> Agents along the Canada and Mexico borders are using a
> controversial new machine that can "read" the
> personal information contained in some government-issued ID
> cards — such as passports and driver's licenses — as
> travelers approach a checkpoint.
>
> The Homeland Security Department says the new practice
> will tighten security and speed the flow of traffic. Privacy
> advocates say the technology could make Americans less
> secure because terrorists or other criminals may be able to
> steal the personal information off the ID cards remotely.
>
> "There's this strange rush to a fancy or shiny
> new technology," says Lee Tien of the Electronic
> Frontier Foundation. The cards "are quite
> vulnerable" to being cloned or having their codes
> broken.
>
> Machines are in place at five crossings — Blaine,
> Wash.; Buffalo; Detroit; Nogales, Ariz.; and San Ysidro,
> Calif. — as part of the government's requirement that
> anyone who crosses the border must show a passport or other
> government documents proving citizenship and identity. The
> machines are being activated in Buffalo today; machines in
> Blaine and Nogales are in use; the rest will be on line over
> the next couple of months.
>
> The new technology is being used in conjunction with new
> government passports, passcards and driver's licenses
> embedded with computer chips that contain the holder's
> name, date of birth, nationality, passport or ID number and
> a digitized photo. The personal data can be "read"
> by a Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) machine as the
> person approaches a border-crossing checkpoint.
>
> FIND MORE STORIES IN: Washington | California | Canada |
> Mexico | New York | US State Department | Idaho | Homeland
> Security Department | Border Protection | Electronic
> Frontier Foundation | Blaine | Ariz. | San Ysidro |
> Katherine Albrecht | Lee Tien | Radio Frequency
> Identification
> By the time a car stops at the Customs booth, the agent
> will have the photos and information of everyone in the car.
> If a name is on a watch list or database, the person will be
> taken in for questioning. The system will be "more
> efficient," says Thomas Winkowski of Customs and Border
> Protection.
>
> Privacy-rights advocates warn that terrorists or other
> criminals can use their own machines in a process called
> "skimming" to read the information from as far as
> 50 feet. Consumer privacy expert Katherine Albrecht says the
> chips create the "potential for a whole surveillance
> network to be set up." She says police could use them
> to find criminals, abusive husbands to find their wives, and
> stores to track customers.
>
> Homeland Security says the chips are made not to reveal
> personal information to machine readers — just a code,
> that then shows the information on the border agents'
> screen. The cards also come with protective sleeves for when
> they're not in use.
>
> The border crossing ID requirement takes effect in June.
> So far, 600,000 State Department passcards and 40,000
> embedded licenses from Washington state and New York have
> been issued.
>
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/computersecurity/2008-11-23-passport-chips_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
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