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[Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>]

bob ford wrote:
> Akka, I did not receive your first message , to which you refer
> below.  Maybe the first message explained the EMP? (I know its the
> big pulse deal, but I was not aware that was another thing about
> which I should now worry <g> )

I still haven't gotten it either, and I show that I sent it almost 3 hours 
ago now.  I'm resending it.


> 
> Congrats on the 9 months tobacco free.  I also depend on meds, don't
> know how long the pump would tick without; but you are in a
> completely differently situation.  I don't remember you becoming so
> sick.  You must have posted about it during one of  my "sick of
> computers and internet" periods.

Well, as for the timeline, I went pretty gungho after moving here...I started 
having a few more aches and pains in 2001..bad disks in my neck and a lot of 
morning stiffness, etc. -General arthritis type stuff that is kinda painful, 
but nothing that NSAIDS, Cox-2, Glucosamine, and a bit of exercise wouldn't 
help(I turned 40 in 2001, so there ya go)....but definitely some kind of 
switch flipped on in 2003.  I believe it was in early '03 that I got sick, 
really quickly, and there was an immediate slowdown of activity. I had some 
issues with heart valves as well, which I know now was also RA related.  DH 
and the kids took over doing a lot of stuff, but after a year or so, they 
burnt out and we downsized tremendously.    I did what I could, homestead 
wise.  I wasn't off the computer during that time, but I may not have been 
here during that time.  I know that when I was the sickest is when I was the 
most frustrated, and I know that I did unsub from
 homesteading lists because they made me sad that I couldn't be out 
doing....I don't recall what list I was on when, other than I believe I was 
gone from this one for a few years there.  I went to Farmer's list for a 
while, then another list, then I came back here.  


> 
> I usually have a 3-month supply of everything med related , ahead.
> After that, I'll be dependent upon nature.  I take so many blasted
> meds that sometimes I think about doing that now.  I feel kind of
> silly with what I have compared to what you have. 

No way...everyone has their problems.  Mine are no worse than yours.  
Just be sure and rotate meds... I mark the syringes with a sharpie.


 One day I'll
> probably be walking across the yard and just keel over.  I don't want
> to think what end stage systemic RA (many, many years ffrom now) will
> be like for you.

Let me tell you now, there will be no long deterioration, no end stage RA for 
me.  I will terminate it before that.  Just saying that since I have had my 
glimpse at being dependent on others for everything.  It will be the same if 
I get cancer if the odds aren't in my favor.

> 
> What you are doing with Embrel is very forward thinking.  You might
> want to think of a non-fuel, non-electric type small fridge that
> could keep low enough temp for the two years.

Well, here in Appalachia there are plenty of Springs..a springhouse, cold 
water, will suffice to keep meds chilly.  Also, my old well is just capped 
off.  Worst comes to worst, I lower the meds on a rope down to that cold 
zone. 8 inch pipe.


> 
> For you, and anyone else, really.  Also consider, if you have a good
> relationship with doc, getting a bottle of opiates.  Whether dental
> or medical mishap, pain, as you well know, is horrid.  A bottle of
> percs carefully hidden from children, could be a blessing, if bad
> tooth, broken arm, etc.  ....bobford
>

Yes, I have done that..  Also, and I will post this without further comment, 
because we all know that animal medicines aren't as pure as meds produced for 
human use, but, got fish? ;)
http://www.bullwrinkle.com/ShoppingPages/fish-antibiotics.htm


Akka B




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Boy; the things people find to worry about. These 'gloom and doom' types 
will probably die from a stress-induced heart attack or worry-induced 
high blood pressure long before anything like this happens.

Lynn Wigglesworth

Akka Homestead wrote:
> This is the second try on this...Bob, be sure and read the link for a EMP 
> scenario.
> 
> --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Akka Homestead  wrote:
> From: Akka Homestead 
> Subject: Surviving in a post EMP world
> To: "Homestead List" 
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 11:28 AM
> 
> http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/lights_out_emp_warfare.html
> 
> One of my biggest fears has always been an EMP that takes out the country's 
> electronics.  We are so dependent on them that I wonder how we  would be 
> without them.  There would be no communication, so people at home would 
> have no idea of what happened.  The government, which has some hardened 
> assets, would quickly be determining who to attack and wouldn't be worrying 
> about Americans.  We would be onl our own.
> 
> I think about at what point, when I lose power and run out of gas for the 
> generators, do I go to Plan B and then plan C.  Do I even go to Plan B with 
> no information, or do I stick it out with Plan A.  In a Mad Max kind of 
> world, what do you do?  An EMP detonation would turn millions of Americans 
> against each other in a competition for
>  food, water, and probably drugs/meds.  
> 
> I think, how would I get out of this area if I had no vehicle?  I do have a 
> boat, so I could travel on the river.  Is there a better way?  maybe the 
> railroad?  Is it possible to built a small, human powered railcar/handcar? 
> Sure, look at these things:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handcar
> Do I have maps for the rivers and rails?  Maps would be very important to 
> avoid certain locations and obstacles.  I know the AT goes to Maine, 
> perhaps that is a possibility as well?  What would I do if there were no 
> information upon which to make a decision....things just stopped..because 
> if it was a nationwide EMP, things would be just as dead in Maine as in 
> Georgia..  Maybe it would only affect the East coast and the Western US 
> would be ok.  Perhaps traveling to the sea is a better option?  Try to hop 
> a boat-you know they will be there, either for refugees, POWs,
>  slavery, etc.  Maybe I could go west via the rails?
> 
> But, assuming I stay put and stick it out here on the homestead, what can I 
> do now to prepare for a post EMP world?  Things I think of right off the 
> bat are to acquire and use 'appliances' that do not have computer chips or 
> are electric, like an old fashioned meat grinder or a french press coffee 
> maker or hand tools.  Mostly, I have that stuff.  Homesteaders generally do 
> take the longer more labor intensive route. 
> Second, since I collect rainwater, I think I am pretty well set.  I can 
> boil it on the woodstove. I live in an area where there are many artesian 
> wells, so while I may have to haul water, it is possible.  I can hunt, 
> fish, and trap.  I have various food supplies stored.  I suppose I should 
> stock up on ammo and learn reloading.
> Is it possible to protect something besides creating a faraday cage, that 
> is, can you bury a car thirty feet deep
>  in a hill, disconnect everything, and post EMP, assemble it and have it 
> work?  I'm not a radio person, so bear with me on this question...will an 
> EMP knock out ham/shortwave radio systems?  Will my Baygen still receive 
> shortwave?
> The biggest fear is the lack of knowledge....being in the dark afterwards.  
> It is hard to make decisions when you don't have sufficient knowledge.  
> Everything becomes gut instinct and a crap shoot.
> You thoughts on this scenario(s)?
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