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[Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>]

This is the second try on this...Bob, be sure and read the link for a EMP 
scenario.

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Surviving in a post EMP world
To: "Homestead List" <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 11:28 AM

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/lights_out_emp_warfare.html

One of my biggest fears has always been an EMP that takes out the country's 
electronics.  We are so dependent on them that I wonder how we  would be 
without them.  There would be no communication, so people at home would have 
no idea of what happened.  The government, which has some hardened assets, 
would quickly be determining who to attack and wouldn't be worrying about 
Americans.  We would be onl our own.

I think about at what point, when I lose power and run out of gas for the 
generators, do I go to Plan B and then plan C.  Do I even go to Plan B with 
no information, or do I stick it out with Plan A.  In a Mad Max kind of 
world, what do you do?  An EMP detonation would turn millions of Americans 
against each other in a competition for
 food, water, and probably drugs/meds.  

I think, how would I get out of this area if I had no vehicle?  I do have a 
boat, so I could travel on the river.  Is there a better way?  maybe the 
railroad?  Is it possible to built a small, human powered railcar/handcar? 
Sure, look at these things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handcar
Do I have maps for the rivers and rails?  Maps would be very important to 
avoid certain locations and obstacles.  I know the AT goes to Maine, perhaps 
that is a possibility as well?  What would I do if there were no information 
upon which to make a decision....things just stopped..because if it was a 
nationwide EMP, things would be just as dead in Maine as in Georgia..  Maybe 
it would only affect the East coast and the Western US would be ok.  Perhaps 
traveling to the sea is a better option?  Try to hop a boat-you know they 
will be there, either for refugees, POWs,
 slavery, etc.  Maybe I could go west via the rails?

But, assuming I stay put and stick it out here on the homestead, what can I 
do now to prepare for a post EMP world?  Things I think of right off the bat 
are to acquire and use 'appliances' that do not have computer chips or are 
electric, like an old fashioned meat grinder or a french press coffee maker 
or hand tools.  Mostly, I have that stuff.  Homesteaders generally do take 
the longer more labor intensive route. 
Second, since I collect rainwater, I think I am pretty well set.  I can boil 
it on the woodstove. I live in an area where there are many artesian wells, 
so while I may have to haul water, it is possible.  I can hunt, fish, and 
trap.  I have various food supplies stored.  I suppose I should stock up on 
ammo and learn reloading.
Is it possible to protect something besides creating a faraday cage, that is, 
can you bury a car thirty feet deep
 in a hill, disconnect everything, and post EMP, assemble it and have it 
work?  I'm not a radio person, so bear with me on this question...will an EMP 
knock out ham/shortwave radio systems?  Will my Baygen still receive 
shortwave?
The biggest fear is the lack of knowledge....being in the dark afterwards.  
It is hard to make decisions when you don't have sufficient knowledge.  
Everything becomes gut instinct and a crap shoot.
You thoughts on this scenario(s)?




      



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Akka, I clicked on the EMP site.  It is a long article and I have to leave 
for a short business meeting in a minute.  I will read when I return, but I 
can tell by the first few paragraphs, it will probably be better for me, to 
not add this to my "worry list", else may have to call doc for benzo's <g>.
I'm replying now so that you will know that your messages are getting out 
....bobford



----- Original Message ----
From: Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>
To: Homestead List <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:38:02 AM
Subject: [Homestead] Fw: Surviving in a post EMP world

This is the second try on this...Bob, be sure and read the link for a EMP 
scenario.

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Surviving in a post EMP world
To: "Homestead List" <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 11:28 AM

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/lights_out_emp_warfare.html

One of my biggest fears has always been an EMP that takes out the country's 
electronics.  We are so dependent on them that I wonder how we  would be 
without them.  There would be no communication, so people at home would have 
no idea of what happened.  The government, which has some hardened assets, 
would quickly be determining who to attack and wouldn't be worrying about 
Americans.  We would be onl our own.

I think about at what point, when I lose power and run out of gas for the 
generators, do I go to Plan B and then plan C.  Do I even go to Plan B with 
no information, or do I stick it out with Plan A.  In a Mad Max kind of 
world, what do you do?  An EMP detonation would turn millions of Americans 
against each other in a competition for
food, water, and probably drugs/meds.  

I think, how would I get out of this area if I had no vehicle?  I do have a 
boat, so I could travel on the river.  Is there a better way?  maybe the 
railroad?  Is it possible to built a small, human powered railcar/handcar? 
Sure, look at these things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handcar
Do I have maps for the rivers and rails?  Maps would be very important to 
avoid certain locations and obstacles.  I know the AT goes to Maine, perhaps 
that is a possibility as well?  What would I do if there were no information 
upon which to make a decision....things just stopped..because if it was a 
nationwide EMP, things would be just as dead in Maine as in Georgia..  Maybe 
it would only affect the East coast and the Western US would be ok.  Perhaps 
traveling to the sea is a better option?  Try to hop a boat-you know they 
will be there, either for refugees, POWs,
slavery, etc.  Maybe I could go west via the rails?

But, assuming I stay put and stick it out here on the homestead, what can I 
do now to prepare for a post EMP world?  Things I think of right off the bat 
are to acquire and use 'appliances' that do not have computer chips or are 
electric, like an old fashioned meat grinder or a french press coffee maker 
or hand tools.  Mostly, I have that stuff.  Homesteaders generally do take 
the longer more labor intensive route. 
Second, since I collect rainwater, I think I am pretty well set.  I can boil 
it on the woodstove. I live in an area where there are many artesian wells, 
so while I may have to haul water, it is possible.  I can hunt, fish, and 
trap.  I have various food supplies stored.  I suppose I should stock up on 
ammo and learn reloading.
Is it possible to protect something besides creating a faraday cage, that is, 
can you bury a car thirty feet deep
in a hill, disconnect everything, and post EMP, assemble it and have it work? 
 I'm not a radio person, so bear with me on this question...will an EMP knock 
out ham/shortwave radio systems?  Will my Baygen still receive shortwave?
The biggest fear is the lack of knowledge....being in the dark afterwards.  
It is hard to make decisions when you don't have sufficient knowledge.  
Everything becomes gut instinct and a crap shoot.
You thoughts on this scenario(s)?




      


      
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