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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

Marie, did you actually read that list?  Most of it is dancing around to try 
and make things said by Obama not a lie or not a lie by ommission.  For 
example his speech on Selma.  The whole thing was a fabrication.  He's been 
desperately seeking a comparison to Kennedy from day one.

He said "Kennedys decided we're going to do an air lift . . . start brining 
young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships . . . This 
young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this 
country . . .because of what happened in Selma, Alabama . . ."

Fact:  #1:  The Kennedys never decided "we're going to do an air lift."  #2: 
"This young man named Barack Obama" did NOT "get one of those tickets" and 
#3:  What happened in Selma Alabama" had nothing to do with it.

#1:  The Kennedys were asked to help get funding.  They had their foundation 
give $100,000.  In 1961!  Barack Obama came to the U.S. in 1959!  Selma 
didn't happen until 1965.

Now Snopes tried to dance around and somehow not make the facts facts. 
However, the FACTS speak for themselves.

The same is true for about half the list.  "that no matching article may yet 
have been found in the pages of Life magazine does not mean that Obama saw 
no article."  Come on, really, like if it existed someone wouldn't have 
found it by now?  Poor baby, "he misremembered the the title of the 
magazine"  Right but the problem with that one is that no one can find any 
other magazine that has that picture or that article.

And about half the others are "because he said so."  or "he misspoke" or 
some other really lame excuse.  Or the really good one.  He never said he 
doesn't "have" lobbyists," he said he does not "employ" lobbyists.  Very 
interesting that they only played word games with that one but don't bother 
to say whether or not he "has" or "employs" any lobbyists.  Which he does, 
btw.

And how conveniently they ignore his interviews in the Chicago Tribune where 
he said the only difference between him and Bush, on the war, is "who is in 
a position to execute."

So, Snopes is not unbiased, nor are they terribly accurate.  I stopped using 
them as a source about a decade ago when they claimed up and down that 
sponges wouldn't kill fish (they do) and that teflon doesn't kill pets (it 
does, small dogs, kittens and birds).  For the correct information on those 
two I'd suggest a veterinarian.  For other facts, I'd suggest doing your own 
homework.  Well, unless you "choose" to read Snopes and stop there because ?

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marie McHarry" <mmcharry AT gmail.com>


> I'm way behind in discussing all the stuff we discuss here, but I've
> been able to read a lot of it. The discussions about lying have been
> particularly annoying. The following is what I put together to people
> who send me the latest fabrication of Obama's hidden Muslim faith
> (etc, etc, etc).  Since the morons who send this kind of stuff haven't
> learned about BCCs, I can reply to most of their address book. I've
> used this kind of public reply for years. I'm amazed that I still get
> much of it.
>
> *************************************
>
> Before you send this kind of stuff out, at least check Snopes.
>
> "50 Lies by Barack Obama":
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp
>
> "Barack Obama is not a US citizen":
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
>
> "Obama is a Muslim": http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
>
> "Hugo Chavez is funding Obama's campaign":
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/chavez.asp
>
> If you visit Snopes and type "Obama" into the search box, you'll get
> at least 66 hits. At least 60 of those hits indicate that the
> scurrilous comments are FALSE. Lies. Untruths. If John McCain can't
> win fair and square, it seems that he's willing to use unethical
> (might one say "immoral"?) tactics.
>
> Try the same thing with the word "McCain" and you'll get 37 hits.
> Surprisingly (Really? Does this surprise you?) most of them are TRUE.
>
> E-mail lists facts about Senator John McCain's wife, Cindy McCain.
> (true)
>
> Article recounts details of Senator John McCain's divorce from his
> first wife, Carol. (true)
>
> E-mail describes the military pedigrees of Senator John McCain's sons.
> (true)
>
> Article by Karl Rove describes Senator John McCain. (undetermined)
>
> Does John McCain not qualify as a natural-born citizen of the U.S.
> because he was born in Panama? (undetermined)
>
> Did John McCain once say that 'the Democratic Party is a fine party,
> and I have no problems with it.' (true)
>
> Did John McCain say he would define the income level that divides the
> middle class from the rich as $5 million? (true)
>
> The difference is that most of the reports circulating about John
> McCain are true while most of the reports circulating about Barack
> Obama are false.
>
> Does this tell you anything?
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