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- From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
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- Subject: [Homestead] On certainty
- Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:02:06 -0500
Prior to our invasion of Iraq the justification issue was debated thoroughly on this list. Each of us hopefully remembers with accuracy our position at that time. There were strong feelings. There were strong statements made. There was certainty. Many of us felt very strong about our conclusions. Finally, the truth is out. The Senate Intelligence Committee has issued its report.
Burn this into your brain. Tell your children about it. It may be a waste of time to show this to those who still believe the untruths we were given. There continue to be those among us who are gullible.
The next time a president urges us to war we must demand much higher standards. Know history or repeat mistakes.
The Truth About the War
Published: June 6, 2008
It took just a few months after the United States’ invasion of Iraq for the world to find out that Saddam Hussein had long abandoned his nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs. He was not training terrorists or colluding with Al Qaeda. The only real threat he posed was to his own countrymen.
It has taken five years to finally come to a reckoning over how much the Bush administration knowingly twisted and hyped intelligence to justify that invasion. On Thursday — after years of Republican stonewalling — a report by the Senate Intelligence Committee gave us as good a set of answers as we’re likely to get.
The report shows clearly that President Bush should have known that important claims he made about Iraq did not conform with intelligence reports. In other cases, he could have learned the truth if he had asked better questions or encouraged more honest answers. . . . .
The Senate report shows that the intelligence Mr. Bush had did not support those statements — or Mr. Rumsfeld’s that “every month that goes by, his W.M.D. programs are progressing, and he moves closer to his goal of possessing the capability to strike our population, and our allies, and hold them hostage to blackmail.”
Claims by Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld that Iraq had longstanding ties to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups also were false, and the Senate committee’s report shows that the two men knew it, or should have.
We cannot say with certainty whether Mr. Bush lied about Iraq. But when the president withholds vital information from the public — or leads them to believe things that he knows are not true — to justify the invasion of another country, that is bad enough.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/opinion/06fri1.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5087&em&en=35f8fa01bf143cec&ex=1212984000
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[Homestead] On certainty,
Gene GeRue, 06/07/2008
- Re: [Homestead] On certainty, Don Bowen, 06/07/2008
- Re: [Homestead] On certainty, Lisa K.V. Perry, 06/07/2008
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Gene GeRue, 06/07/2008
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EarthNSky, 06/07/2008
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Gene GeRue, 06/07/2008
- Re: [Homestead] On certainty, Lisa K.V. Perry, 06/07/2008
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- Re: [Homestead] On certainty, Gene GeRue, 06/07/2008
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Gene GeRue, 06/07/2008
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