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[SJC <indexer AT localnet.com>]

James, thanks for the hops info.  Looks like something we could do here, 
providing of course MrDavid appears to build a support.  That part's out 
of my league and it looks like it would need to be a sturdy one.....

It looks like they've a growth habit a little like the hardy kiwi when 
it comes to that; those things would almost pull over a telephone 
pole....maybe they would, actually, except for them being caprine 
snick-snacks from time to time.

SJ