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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

----- Original Message ----- From: Gene GeRue<mailto:genegerue AT ruralize.com> 
> >It's so tempting to stretch your climate to the limits in search of 
> >delicacies, but I'd rather grow stuff that's easily acclimated to my area 
> >and can thrive on it's own-
> 
> I look forward to an attached greenhouse where I will experiment. About the 
> only caution I take is that I think a person's health is somehow tied to 
> their place and it is most healthful to eat the products of that place.

"Whoa, Nellie" - I don't know where mine is,
but did you read Wendell Berry's view on
*place* as in "my place" (his) "in the world"
(where his home/family lived/lives and the
great majority of Americans *don't* any more) ?? 
I don't even remember if what I saw in ?the? 
magazine was 'the whole thing' or if it was 
part of a longer essay ...
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----- Original Message ----- From: Gene GeRue<mailto:genegerue AT ruralize.com> 
> >I'll bet y'all thought the job of prez was to serve this country and its 
> >citizens.

Indeed - headless - on a plate, like
some of those who, I ass-u-me,
voted for it.

> I am beginning to feel like a minority citizen.

You are. Or so the vote-counters said ... *again*.

> I presume I am not the only one who is receiving a lot of spam offering to 
> refinance, shed debt, etc. "the Christian way." Gotta admire that good old 
> entrepreneurial spirit, reborn.

Yes, the Bible-r 'way' and the Koran 'way'
are alike - as I noted in an earlier post - 
"show me the money".

The *Christ* had only the robe on His back -
he owned nothing (the way I've heard it told)
and maybe that marvel has been what's kept
the history going for 20 centuries-and-counting,
meanwhile profit for prophets whose muscle-
labor never mind.
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----- Original Message ----- From: Gene GeRue<mailto:genegerue AT ruralize.com>  
>Something there is about religion that causes otherwise decent people to do 
inhuman things. That irrationality scares me.

Well, of course, silly - "faith" is 
*not* rational !