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  • From: "Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>
  • To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Reply to : [Homestead] "Forest"
  • Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 09:16:36 -0700

Walter typed:
> I do sustainable forestry management.
 
*Management* is an indication to me that
what you have, you *work* on.
 
*You*, (me, us) being human, are one
of the shortlived species.
 
Your "trees* have something in common
with you/me/us - since you are looking at
a "lifespan" of approximately 40 years, I
believe was your harvest outlook ? But
then I don't know how "old" your oldest
trees might be .... ??
 
When I think of sequoias, ?? 2000 years,
and bristlecone pines, ?? 3500 years,
together with the fact that populations
have spread out *from* the East Coast,
*using up trees as they went*, I see a
difference in our thinking about "Forest".
 
> You have at your finger tips, in books and the web, a world of information. Educate yourself.
 
If you will do the same ?  I suggest :
 
"The Work of Nature" ISBN 1-55963-520-7
 
- I learned a lot. Made me sad, when I
"looked" at what humans do to "Forest".
 
"A Plague of Rats and Rubbervines" ISBN 1-55963-051-5
 
- showed me where *some* "management"
(here I must include that deal-breaker
"clear-cutting") along with the nurseries
continues to profit from selling aggressively
invading plants that are helping the
clearcutters do away with "Forest" as well
as *native* trees and plants.

> It shows a rigidity in your thinking.
 
"Methinks thou dost protest too much."  <g>
But then, I could be wrong, right ? Or
should I have said "correct" ? 
 
> Ease up and try to clear your mind a bit before you go forward. You could learn a lot that way. It is okay.
 
Indeed, yes. Stress is a bad manager. ! Bad Dog !!
 
But to get back to "educate yourself" ?
I'm willing if you are - please supply your
definition of "sustainable" ? Because I've
heard several-to-many "versions", from
clearcutting/replanting through tree "farms"
through horse-logging to using helicopters -
the helicopters lifted out the trees without
disturbing the topsoil/leaf mould only by the
weight and scuffling of humans, while the
horse-logger did his "dragging" in the winter
time over snow-pack, which also preserved
somewhat the many layers of "Forest"s
"food-supply" (from its topsoil).
 
Toni

 



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