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  • From: moviej2k AT aol.com
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  • Subject: Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6
  • Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:09:02 -0500

ALL fans of punk, horror, good ol' rock in the triangle area should trek over
to Greenville for this show
We're trying to get something going in this town but support is near zero.
You big city people should
come out and show some love. We'd love to have you!

MONDAY MARCH 13TH
ALTERNATION TOUR 2006 HITS GREENVILLE

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=19393682&imageID=446906675&Mytoken=125A03CE-9DB9-B2B2-27279C0039447BED31505215

@ The Spazzatorium
1110A Cotanche Street
9PM

featuring:

BLASE DEBRIS
http://www.myspace.com/blasedebris

Horror punk at it's absolute finest. Fans of The Misfits, Graves and Samhain
will die happy after their set. On their way to a headlining gig at the SXSW
festival, they will first grace us with their ugly-beauty. Dominating their
upstate New York punk scene for over four years they trudge out on their 1st
ever national trek. Featuring former Trauma School Dropouts vocalist Duane
Beer, the group has shared the stage with such notables as Gogol
Bordello,U.K. Subs, Throwrag, WASP, the Queers and many more. This band's the
real deal and you'll be a convert after bearing witness to their onslaught.
Crazy antics by the vocalist are a given.


CASKET ARCHITECTS
http://www.myspace.com/casketarchitects

Self-labeled Sci-Fi Deth Rock. Crossing the genres of punk, metal, and late
70's industrial noise, the group tirelessly pursues a unique sound of their
own. "The term ?power trio? usually calls to mind instant imagery ? manic pop
songs, cliquey groups in matching outfits?you know the drill. How about
searing guitar chops, wildly flailing limbs and a maniacally awesome female
drummer? Enter Warwick, New York?s Casket Architects. Comprised of bassist
Evan Schlomann, guitarist/vocalist Mike Shaw and drummer Annie Terror, the
group has been turning heads and dropping jaws with a stage show well worthy
of their constant Black Flag comparisons." - AM


THE MISS FITS
http://www.myspace.com/themissfits

An (almost) all female Misfits cover band ...in full costume. Besides the
love for the godfathers of horror punk they also pay tribute to the glam/fem.
style of the New York Dolls and all things that are punk. I needn't say more.
Addictive, I dare you not to scream along and have a blast.


THE LEGION OF SUPERVILLIANS
http://www.myspace.com/thelegionofsupervillains

These boys are hitting their stride and their past couple of shows have been
wickedly amazing. Come out for a line-up that best suits their sound and join
in for the good times. Stripping and beer super-soakings may be in store.

I should have free copies of Altercation Magazine (featuring Billy Idol,
Bouncing Souls, Echo and the Bunnymen, Against Me and lots more), awesome
silkscreened posters, giveaways and more all coutesy of the magazine. If you
have friends in the area that might be into this, please let em know it's
happening. With ECU on it's spring break I want to make sure enough people
get out here to rock it. Spread this around and lets make things hotter than
Cancun and Daytona Beach combined. Thanks!

-Jeff
Amicitia Booking
http://www.myspace.com/amicitiabooking

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Today's Topics:

1. whatever earnest high school poetry passes for "nature
valley" (Bryk)
2. Re: whatever earnest high school poetry passes for "nature
valley" (Duncan Murrell)
3. deeper into music (Bryk)
4. Re: whatever earnest high school poetry passes for "nature
valley" (Chris Calloway)
5. Re: Open Letter to WUNC (kevin maxwell farmer)
6. Re: Open Letter to WUNC (Bo Williams)
7. Re: Open Letter to WUNC (The Grand Oral Disseminator)
8. Re: Open Letter to WUNC (grady)
9. Re: Open Letter to WUNC (The Grand Oral Disseminator)
10. Re: Open Letter to WUNC (Chris Calloway)
11. Re: Open Letter to WUNC (Chris Calloway)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:03:17 -0500
From: Bryk <chscene AT bryk.com>
Subject: whatever earnest high school poetry passes for "nature
valley"
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <C0356A5B-89E1-4216-B345-12AB0FACC174 AT bryk.com>
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On 5-Mar-06, at 8:45 AM, grady wrote:

> I think you're projecting, or conflating a certain oldschool "public
> radio" tone in her voice with all the other stuff you seem to
> associate
> (quite rightly, I'd reckon) with "public radio". U.S. public radio,
> that
> is. You probably don't love Susan Stamberg, either, do ya?

Well that tone is hardly an American... listen to a couple of daytime
hours of CBC Radio 1 for comparison. I think they all go to the same
finishing school for public broadcasting, buried miles under some ivy
league campus somewhere.

> Lynne wrote a really great italian cookbook (also called the Splendid
> Table, which may be a slightly pretentious name for a radio show but
> less-so for a cookbook, so there's that) & it's packed full of nerdy
> definitions & food-historical tidbits & stuff. She's just a wonk in
> the
> same way the Car Guys are wonks, albeit in a different milieu (and
> with
> a different accent).

I poked around the website a bit, maybe you're right and maybe I'll
just shut up.
Or maybe it's just that goddamned theme music is so genteel that it
makes me want to projectile vomit.


> I'm curious: why didn't you nominate a few hours of the execrable
> "Back
> Porch Music" (or better yet, the fucking Thistle and Shamrock) for
> the axe?

Execrable is strong. Regularly he'll play a bunch of interesting
things in a row, and I'll enjoy it momentarily (until he spins some
David Massengill or whatever earnest high school poetry passes for
"new folk"), but for the most part I find myself grumbling "Fucking
bluegrass nazis with their history and sincerity and Seal of Cultural
Approval". BPM is delivered so effortlessly, so lazily that it comes
off as almost a sinecure for local roots music artists. I almost wish
that something would go _wrong_ once in a while... a missed cue, an
Immortal Lee County Killers side... fuck, how about some Julian
Cope? And it seems sort of boys club to me. Most of the women I've
heard are from trad schools old (Tabor, Waterson) and new (Cantrell,
Cary) whereas they're willing to spin the Avetts as "something new
and exciting". How come I never seem to hear Neko Case or Meg
Christian or hell, Kimya Dawson (or whatever earnest high school
poetry passes for "antifolk".)

But here's the thing... as much as I occasionally feel overwhelmed by
the roots rock weirdos and bluegrass nazis 'round here, I also know
that outside of this little roots culdesac called the Triangle, this
music is totally marginalized. They're burning with OCD for this
music, and they want to keep the flame alive. Is that really so
different from me and my Distractions 45s?

Strangely, I don't find Thistle and Shamrock as doctrinaire, but then
again it's a genre show based on sort of a cultural nationalism
rather than a specific style. Fiona's take on "Celtic Music" seems to
be more of a fluid, expansive thang that encompasses some very
traditional music, some icky Riverdance-type stuff, some quasi-new-
age wallpaper music, the diasporic (Loreena McKennitt representin'
for Southern Ontario), and (*sigh*) Eliza Carthy.




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:00:11 -0600
From: Duncan Murrell <dvmurrell AT nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: whatever earnest high school poetry passes for "nature
valley"
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <6AD517CE-8650-46CD-91A8-07F3269CFF66 AT nc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

I'd guess that Backporch Music runs on autopilot because the station
overlords like it that way, and not because Keith or Freddy love that
approach to playing music all the time. (That is, I assume the
honestly like the music they play, but it's far from being all that
they like.) For comparison's sake, check out Keith's music stream,
www.deeperintomusic.net . On the playlist in the last few minutes:
The Church, Brian Eno, The Go-Betweens, The Negro Problem, Luna,
Guided by Voices, Kevin Kinney, Bob Mould, OMD, Stew, Mock Turtles.

But I'm digging the cranky Ignatius Reilly vibe. Keep it up!

d


On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Bryk wrote:

>
> On 5-Mar-06, at 8:45 AM, grady wrote:
>
>> I think you're projecting, or conflating a certain oldschool "public
>> radio" tone in her voice with all the other stuff you seem to
>> associate
>> (quite rightly, I'd reckon) with "public radio". U.S. public radio,
>> that
>> is. You probably don't love Susan Stamberg, either, do ya?
>
> Well that tone is hardly an American... listen to a couple of daytime
> hours of CBC Radio 1 for comparison. I think they all go to the same
> finishing school for public broadcasting, buried miles under some ivy
> league campus somewhere.
>
>> Lynne wrote a really great italian cookbook (also called the Splendid
>> Table, which may be a slightly pretentious name for a radio show but
>> less-so for a cookbook, so there's that) & it's packed full of nerdy
>> definitions & food-historical tidbits & stuff. She's just a wonk in
>> the
>> same way the Car Guys are wonks, albeit in a different milieu (and
>> with
>> a different accent).
>
> I poked around the website a bit, maybe you're right and maybe I'll
> just shut up.
> Or maybe it's just that goddamned theme music is so genteel that it
> makes me want to projectile vomit.
>
>
>> I'm curious: why didn't you nominate a few hours of the execrable
>> "Back
>> Porch Music" (or better yet, the fucking Thistle and Shamrock) for
>> the axe?
>
> Execrable is strong. Regularly he'll play a bunch of interesting
> things in a row, and I'll enjoy it momentarily (until he spins some
> David Massengill or whatever earnest high school poetry passes for
> "new folk"), but for the most part I find myself grumbling "Fucking
> bluegrass nazis with their history and sincerity and Seal of Cultural
> Approval". BPM is delivered so effortlessly, so lazily that it comes
> off as almost a sinecure for local roots music artists. I almost wish
> that something would go _wrong_ once in a while... a missed cue, an
> Immortal Lee County Killers side... fuck, how about some Julian
> Cope? And it seems sort of boys club to me. Most of the women I've
> heard are from trad schools old (Tabor, Waterson) and new (Cantrell,
> Cary) whereas they're willing to spin the Avetts as "something new
> and exciting". How come I never seem to hear Neko Case or Meg
> Christian or hell, Kimya Dawson (or whatever earnest high school
> poetry passes for "antifolk".)
>
> But here's the thing... as much as I occasionally feel overwhelmed by
> the roots rock weirdos and bluegrass nazis 'round here, I also know
> that outside of this little roots culdesac called the Triangle, this
> music is totally marginalized. They're burning with OCD for this
> music, and they want to keep the flame alive. Is that really so
> different from me and my Distractions 45s?
>
> Strangely, I don't find Thistle and Shamrock as doctrinaire, but then
> again it's a genre show based on sort of a cultural nationalism
> rather than a specific style. Fiona's take on "Celtic Music" seems to
> be more of a fluid, expansive thang that encompasses some very
> traditional music, some icky Riverdance-type stuff, some quasi-new-
> age wallpaper music, the diasporic (Loreena McKennitt representin'
> for Southern Ontario), and (*sigh*) Eliza Carthy.
>
>
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 14:11:37 -0500
From: Bryk <chscene AT bryk.com>
Subject: deeper into music
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <73A8C48F-C141-46D6-9610-6D01BB1C62A3 AT bryk.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed



On 5-Mar-06, at 1:00 PM, Duncan Murrell wrote:
> For comparison's sake, check out Keith's music stream,
> www.deeperintomusic.net . On the playlist in the last few minutes:
> The Church, Brian Eno, The Go-Betweens, The Negro Problem, Luna,
> Guided by Voices, Kevin Kinney, Bob Mould, OMD, Stew, Mock Turtles.
>

that's a pretty great stream (although again, even that cross section
is pretty much all male and nearly all have been on majors at some
point). thanks for the link.

dB



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 21:06:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: whatever earnest high school poetry passes for "nature
valley"
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20060306050612.1829.qmail AT web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

--- Duncan Murrell <dvmurrell AT nc.rr.com> wrote:
> The Church, Brian Eno, The Go-Betweens, The Negro
> Problem, Luna,
> Guided by Voices, Kevin Kinney, Bob Mould, OMD,
> Stew, Mock Turtles.

man, talk about your inane yuppie gibberish. :)

> But I'm digging the cranky Ignatius Reilly vibe.

pwned!

3



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:41:29 -0500
From: kevin maxwell farmer <fakirmevern-amch AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to WUNC
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <440C03C9.4030904 AT yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed



dookie wrote:
> great plan! *anything* to lose diane rehm. it really makes my physically
> uncomfortable to listen to her...i'm afraid she's gonna keel over dead any
> second.
>

she isn't going to die anytime soon; she has a neurological disorder
called spasmodic dysphonia:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101067






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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:20:21 -0500
From: "Bo Williams" <bowilliams AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to WUNC
To: "RTP-area local music and culture" <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID:
<469e988e0603060520k3072e61k4b4681ebd77cbe0c AT mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Man, I sure would feel like a shitheel after this.

On 3/6/06, kevin maxwell farmer <fakirmevern-amch AT yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> dookie wrote:
> > great plan! *anything* to lose diane rehm. it really makes my
> physically
> > uncomfortable to listen to her...i'm afraid she's gonna keel over dead
> any
> > second.
> >
>
> she isn't going to die anytime soon; she has a neurological disorder
> called spasmodic dysphonia:
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101067
>
>
>
>
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 06:21:15 -0800 (PST)
From: The Grand Oral Disseminator <floydianslip127 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to WUNC
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20060306142115.72683.qmail AT web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I listen to her show all the time

Bo Williams <bowilliams AT gmail.com> wrote: Man, I sure would feel like a
shitheel after this.

On 3/6/06, kevin maxwell farmer wrote:
>
>
>
> dookie wrote:
> > great plan! *anything* to lose diane rehm. it really makes my
> physically
> > uncomfortable to listen to her...i'm afraid she's gonna keel over dead
> any
> > second.
> >
>
> she isn't going to die anytime soon; she has a neurological disorder
> called spasmodic dysphonia:
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101067
>
>
>
>
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
-- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene




"If we are nothing at all in the end, let it be that we were true to
ourselves."
-e. peace















































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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:55:54 -0500
From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to WUNC
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <440C4D7A.9000806 AT ibiblio.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

That's just because you're overly sensitive, Bo, and that's what we love
about you. All the guy said was that it makes him physically
uncomfortable to listen to her. Whether or not she's *actually* going to
keel over or not is kind of secondary to the main question of what,
exactly, the criteria are for one to have a nationally-syndicated radio
talk show.

I myself kind of enjoy the bizarre phenomenon of hearing someone with a
moderate speech impairment doing a live radio talk show. I do have to
wonder whether WAMU would have hired her at all if she'd had the
dysphonia at the time, rather than coming down with it later, and what
kind of heated discussions may or may not have occurred behind closed
doors when she expressed her desire to keep on talkin' after her
diagnosis. "Public" radio being rather corporatist & focus-grouped &
ratings/power-obsessed & alla that.

Then again, I suspect her ratings had a sympathy bounce, so maybe the
public radio execs were overcome with glee.

I myself am currently fingers-crossing that WUNC doesn't permanently
stick Dick Gordon in at 1:00 p.m. because I'm kinda fond of "Day To
Day," or rather I guess I should say I just can't get enough Alex
Chadwick, even though he's spending less time in hip-waders in South
American swamps nowadays as a result.

Plus Dahlia Lithwick!

Ross

p.s. RE: the original topic of this discussion -- relying on NPR for pop
music coverage seems kinda futile. Shouldn't we be encouraging them to
spend *less* time flailing after the pop demographic & more time
covering things like, you know, news & politics & science & stuff? The
universe is awash, up to its follicles, even, in pop-music coverage already.

Bo Williams wrote:
> Man, I sure would feel like a shitheel after this.
>
> On 3/6/06, kevin maxwell farmer <fakirmevern-amch AT yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> dookie wrote:
>>> great plan! *anything* to lose diane rehm. it really makes my
>> physically
>>> uncomfortable to listen to her...i'm afraid she's gonna keel over dead
>> any
>>> second.
>>>
>> she isn't going to die anytime soon; she has a neurological disorder
>> called spasmodic dysphonia:
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101067
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>>
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
>
>


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:13:44 -0800 (PST)
From: The Grand Oral Disseminator <floydianslip127 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to WUNC
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20060306151344.24129.qmail AT web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I think regardless of how fast she can talk the fact of it is, its good radio.

grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote: That's just because you're overly
sensitive,
Bo, and that's what we love
about you. All the guy said was that it makes him physically
uncomfortable to listen to her. Whether or not she's *actually* going to
keel over or not is kind of secondary to the main question of what,
exactly, the criteria are for one to have a nationally-syndicated radio
talk show.

I myself kind of enjoy the bizarre phenomenon of hearing someone with a
moderate speech impairment doing a live radio talk show. I do have to
wonder whether WAMU would have hired her at all if she'd had the
dysphonia at the time, rather than coming down with it later, and what
kind of heated discussions may or may not have occurred behind closed
doors when she expressed her desire to keep on talkin' after her
diagnosis. "Public" radio being rather corporatist & focus-grouped &
ratings/power-obsessed & alla that.

Then again, I suspect her ratings had a sympathy bounce, so maybe the
public radio execs were overcome with glee.

I myself am currently fingers-crossing that WUNC doesn't permanently
stick Dick Gordon in at 1:00 p.m. because I'm kinda fond of "Day To
Day," or rather I guess I should say I just can't get enough Alex
Chadwick, even though he's spending less time in hip-waders in South
American swamps nowadays as a result.

Plus Dahlia Lithwick!

Ross

p.s. RE: the original topic of this discussion -- relying on NPR for pop
music coverage seems kinda futile. Shouldn't we be encouraging them to
spend *less* time flailing after the pop demographic & more time
covering things like, you know, news & politics & science & stuff? The
universe is awash, up to its follicles, even, in pop-music coverage already.

Bo Williams wrote:
> Man, I sure would feel like a shitheel after this.
>
> On 3/6/06, kevin maxwell farmer wrote:
>>
>>
>> dookie wrote:
>>> great plan! *anything* to lose diane rehm. it really makes my
>> physically
>>> uncomfortable to listen to her...i'm afraid she's gonna keel over dead
>> any
>>> second.
>>>
>> she isn't going to die anytime soon; she has a neurological disorder
>> called spasmodic dysphonia:
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101067
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>>
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
>
>
-- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene




"If we are nothing at all in the end, let it be that we were true to
ourselves."
-e. peace















































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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:28:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to WUNC
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20060306162809.44857.qmail AT web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

--- grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
> Shouldn't we be
> encouraging them to
> spend *less* time flailing after the pop demographic
> & more time
> covering things like, you know, news & politics &
> science & stuff?

Yes. More stuff. Less yuppie music.

3



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:33:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to WUNC
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20060306163359.79732.qmail AT web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

--- The Grand Oral Disseminator
<floydianslip127 AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think regardless of how fast she can talk the fact
> of it is, its good radio.

I must confess, I have a very limited tolerance for
being able to listen to her. It is painful, like nails
on chalkboard, however much sympathy one might have.

However, like medicine which doesn't taste good, it
might be good for you. What I notice about her show is
that she can have four people on at once, and because
of her speed of moderation, they don't all talk all
over each other at once. A counterbalance to the nails
on the chalkboard is here's a political talk show
where the guests and host aren't behaving like crazed
wolverines.

So maybe it would be good if Bill O'Reilly suddenly
developed a speech impediment. He already has the
neurological disorder to go with it.

3



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