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- From: rws6 <rws6 AT duke.edu>
- To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20
- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:27:22 -0500
>
> I mean, "I gots no time to go try out for that weird college radio
> station full of longhairs who listen to nothing but field recordings and
> laptop bleeps; I've got my website to run and my 24/7 streaming web
> radio station. Ya dig?"
>
not to mention college radio is run by a bunch of dicks who think that your
taste is shit.
> Ross
>
> p.s. I suspect there are other things that the Moaners have in common
> with des_ark beyond ease-of-touring.
>
> bendy wrote:
> > I want to bite on this one, but my thoughts are really disorganized, and
> > I've thrown out a few attempts already. But to add to the discussion:
> >
> > - Glenn dropping the cover for various local shows is good. And it's
> > symptomatic of something larger that's going on with the business of
> > music right now. My own band made far more money from pass-the-hat gigs
> > than anything with a cover charge.
>
> > ...and this is a list full of rockists, for sure. While I've fretted
> > that "rock" might be passe, I get a look some fresh-faced bunch of
> > shitheads like the Coachwhips or Something About Vampires and Sluts, and
> > I know everything is okay. They play the same damn riffs everyone has
> > played for 50 years now, but somehow make it sound scuzzy and sexy and
> new.
> >
> > So I don't think the worry should be Franz Ferdinand selling out the
> > Cradle. FF is just the 2004 model of the Verve, who were the 1997 model
> > of School of Fish or whatever. I remember my 18 year old self getting
> > into it with a 30 year old friend who was arguing that upstarts like the
> > Smiths and Sonic Youth didn't fit his mold of underground rock (which
> > was, if I recall correctly, The Germs and The Violent Femmes.) Like
> > grady concludes, most of that audience isn't really looking for new
> > music anyways. They probably found out about it while reading mom's
> > People Magazine.
> >
> > - I do think we're on the cusp of something really different than the
> > last 50 years though, and I think it's mostly economic, not a style or
> > demographic thing. And it's here my thought get most disorganized. The
> > audience for gut-level music has remained pretty constant, or grown,
> > given that we can find out about a good Swedish or Japanese band fairly
> > quickly, without that band ever coming to the States. Or in the case of
> > the A-Frames, even making it to our coast. But still, it feels like a
> > winnowing. The whole "This Band Could Be Your Life" circuit is probably
> > dissolving. The rise of guitar-drum duos might have something to do with
> > economic change. I know I've looked on with envy at the super-stealthy
> > mobility of des_ark, and how they don't even need a sound check. I
> > wonder if simplifying touring had anything to do with M. Swingle moving
> > from Trailer Bride to the Moaners?
> >
> > - Local rock does great when we make it an event. Blackstrap should have
> > made every gig our *last* gig. Or Niku should organize everything.
> > Getting more incoherent: vaudeville and cabaret. If you're music is
> > downloadable for free (and if it isn't you are dumb), you better make
> > that live show stand out.
> >
> > bendy
> >
> >
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RE: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20,
Allen, Richard, 12/21/2004
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Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20,
grady, 12/21/2004
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Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20,
bendy, 12/21/2004
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- Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20, rws6, 12/21/2004
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- Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20, bendy, 12/29/2004
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Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20,
bendy, 12/21/2004
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Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20,
grady, 12/21/2004
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- Ch-scene Digest, Vol 14, Issue 20, Michael Warren, 12/21/2004
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