Development of the Creative Commons Sampling license (or license option)

[Cory Doctorow <cory AT eff.org>]

Didn't Raymond Scott build analog, vac-tube-and-solenoid samplers in 
the 30s? 40s?

On Saturday, September 13, 2003, at 08:28  PM, mark / negativland wrote:

> At 12:46 AM +0100 9/14/03, David meme wrote:
> > I disagree. I sample everything just to get the sounds into the 
> > computer but I am sampling my own work. So it is not derivative...
> >
> > Still maybe a simple name is best?
>
>
> Perhaps. But FYI.....
>
> I've never liked the term myself. It refers ( or at least it did) to a 
> digital sound grabbing machine called a "sampler" that "samples" 
> sound. Up until a few years ago, most of the so-called "sampling" done 
> by Negativland was done using reel to reel tape decks (we used 
> "samplers" only sparingly).  Re-using sounds by cutting up analog tape 
> isn't what I'd even call "sampling" at all. "Appropriation", "Collage" 
> and "Re-use" always seemed like better terms to us. We pretty much 
> never use the "s-word" word to describe our own work.  In my aging 
> brain "sampling" is a term that refers to   a certain way of using 
> technology, but there are all sorts of ways to transformatively re-use 
> something without actually "sampling" it.
>
> but maybe I am being too nit picky here.
>
> (that's my main job in Negativland- being picky)
>
> mark
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, September 13, 2003, at 09:39  pm, Lisa Rein wrote:
> >
> > > Also:  Anyone using a CC Sampling license is going to be making a 
> > > derivative work, by definition, so it seems logical to steer clear 
> > > of using "derivative" in the name.  It's both redundant and 
> > > confusing.
> >
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