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  • From: Frances Pinter <frances AT pinter.org.uk>
  • To: Development of Creative Commons licenses <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Kat Walsh <kat AT creativecommons.org>
  • Cc: cc-community AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Commercial Rights Reserved
  • Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:31:01 +0000

Hi Heather,

I understand your argument, but I think there are just more people out there
who want greater clarity. I think both CRR and NC are both about reserving
commercial rights - even if the language may, perhaps, stem from different
sources and different motivations.

Best,
Frances


On 10/12/2012 19:34, "Heather Morrison" <hgmorris AT sfu.ca> wrote:

> hi Kat,
>
> Thank you very much for asking about this. I am strongly opposed to changing
> "noncommercial" to "commercial rights reserved". The noncommercial element
> is
> often used by creators who are not primarily in the commercial realm, and
> "commercial rights reserved" is not necessarily what people mean by
> "noncommercial".
>
> Having to choose between granting or reserving commercial rights suggests
> that
> the many people who share their work freely but just don't want others to
> sell
> it are not welcome in the Creative Commons.
>
> best,
>
> Heather Morrison
>
>
>
> On 2012-12-10, at 11:27 AM, Kat Walsh wrote:
>
>> There is one piece of the recent NC/ND announcements I'd like to call
>> particular attention to.
>>
>> One of the open proposals is to change the name of the NonCommercial
>> license to "Commercial Rights Reserved". I've put together a page on
>> the wiki (also linked in the previous email) with a description of the
>> proposal and some arguments for and against--you can find it at
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Commercial_Rights_Reserved
>>
>> (I've seen several people comment on and link to it already; thank you!)
>>
>> This would be a pretty big change, and we're hesitant to do it unless
>> there is strong support. We'd like to hear broader input on it to be
>> able to make a decision--please let us know what you think!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kat
>>
>> --
>> Kat Walsh, Counsel, Creative Commons
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>> please consult your attorney.
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