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- From: David Chart <bydosa AT davidchart.com>
- To: Development of Creative Commons licenses <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA
- Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:07:52 +0900
On 2012/04/22, at 2:03, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> (1) The text would be an extension of the photographs, for example by
> describing them, or
That's a clear case, and would be covered by the CC-BY-SA licence as well, I
think. (Beyond the level of description that counts as fair use, of course.)
> (2) The book could be a combined creative work (depends on a court seeing
> the
> name program apply to any kind work).
I have to say that the chances of that happening strike me as somewhere
between "slim" and "none". There is just no linguistic precedent for calling
an illustrated book a program.
>
> The second case would hit in any case where the photographs are not just
> selected at random but selected to fit the text *and form a larger whole*.
>
> So the only way to create an unfree book which uses your GPL photographs
> would
> be to create a *bad* book. Like a documentation of Mauna Loa using random
> images from Seattle and Berlin.
>
> As soon as the theme of the images fits the text, it’s no mere aggregation
> anymore and they have to adhere the copyleft.
I think it's much more analogous to binary kernel modules than an extension
to a larger program. A binary kernel module is obviously not written at
random, or with no reference to the rest of the kernel.
If "selection to fit a larger whole" creates a copyleft obligation, it should
be impossible to have Linux distributions that include unfree, or even
free-but-GPL-incompatible, software, because a Linux distribution is a larger
whole.
I do think drew is right to believe that the GPL does not, in fact, do what
he wants. The current usages of the licence strongly suggests it doesn't.
--
David Chart
http://www.davidchart.com/
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Re: [cc-licenses] derivatives and source
, (continued)
- Re: [cc-licenses] derivatives and source, zotz, 04/11/2012
- [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, David Chart, 04/14/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, drew Roberts, 04/16/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Francesco Poli, 04/16/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, drew Roberts, 04/17/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Francesco Poli, 04/18/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, drew Roberts, 04/19/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, David Chart, 04/18/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, drew Roberts, 04/18/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Arne Babenhauserheide, 04/21/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, David Chart, 04/21/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Francesco Poli, 04/23/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, zotz, 04/22/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Arne Babenhauserheide, 04/22/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, zotz, 04/22/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Francesco Poli, 04/23/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, drew Roberts, 04/24/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Francesco Poli, 04/28/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, drew Roberts, 04/28/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, Francesco Poli, 04/30/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Aggregation and Stronger SA, drew Roberts, 04/30/2012
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