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  • From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use
  • Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:35:51 -0400

On Monday 01 October 2007 09:19 am, paola.dimaio AT gmail.com wrote:
> drew
>
> > > I will simply say that I can use a 'preagreement' option, which means,
> > > I can license the work under cc, say, if the conditions in the pre
> > > agreement are met
> > >
> > > objections?
>
> l am suggesting that for simplicity I will not change the cc license
> and call it a cc license
> (I never suggested this)
>
> I am saying that it is within my right to use a cc license provided
> certain conditions are met (ina pre agreemnt). this will not break
> the license at all.
>
> basically, I use the cc license in the way that (legitimately) suits me,
> unless you have further objections

Please give a detailed example using BY-SA as a start if you would consider
using BY-SA. You language in this post is very confusing to me at the moment.
>
> :-)
> :
> > > PDM

all the best,

drew
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > drew
> >
> > > On 10/1/07, rob AT robmyers.org <rob AT robmyers.org> wrote:
> > > > Quoting drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>:
> > > > > On Sunday 30 September 2007 10:44 pm, paola.dimaio AT gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >> > in the sense that it would place your "customized" licence
> > > > >> > outside the CC system, i.e. it would render it impossible to
> > > > >> > interact with the SA licences. - most legal problems CC licences
> > > > >> > have relate to the interpretation of terms such as
> > > > >> > "non-commercial" which are not used by national Copyright Laws.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Not necessarily. If the change is straighforrwad and just adding a
> > > > >> condition it does not change any part of the agreeent itself. i
> > > > >> say that the change that I propose will not affect the
> > > > >> compatibility
> > > > >
> > > > > It will certainly affect the compatibility of all SA licensed
> > > > > works.
> > > >
> > > > It would break compatibility.
> > > >
> > > > As has already been mentioned, the licenses state that they are the
> > > > entire agreement. We cannot add extra conditions. We can state how we
> > > > expect the agreement to be interpreted, but we cannot bolt on extra
> > > > restrictions.
> > > >
> > > > - Rob.
> >
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