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  • From: "Greg London" <greglondon.1 AT gmail.com>
  • To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
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  • Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:59:46 -0400

James Grimmelmann james at grimmelmann.net wrote:

 
"Freedom" has many meanings.

There are the freedom from want, the freedom from fear, the freedom of
speech, the freedom of the press, the freedom of religion, the freedom
of conscience, the freedom to copy, the freedom to adapt, the freedom to
redistribute, the freedom to travel, the freedom to marry, degrees of
freedom, sexual freedom, and many more.
 
 
Right, because when someone is getting defensive about
using a CC-NC license on their work, and they quote
the CC website that talks about Freedom, they're really
talking about the freedom to be homosexual.
 
Give me a fricken break.
 
People want to use the word "Freedom" because it's cool.
Not because it's accurate.
Even if FSF and the entire Free Software community
had NOT already defined what "Free" means in terms of copyright,
CC could STILL change "freedoms" to "rights" because
"rights" is far more accurate.
 
But as always, everyone wants on the "freedom" bandwagon.
Yeah, man, we're all in one big happy freedom boat when
we're talking about freedom. ANd freedom is free, so no one
gets to make it have just one definition, so it's OK if we use
our own definition, even if it doesn't match anything in the
commonly held definition. man.
 
Because its better to make the emotional plea, than to
stick with the facts. It's just more accurate to say "freedom"
than it is to say "rights".
 
Sure.
 
ANd DRM is really only about protecting artists freedoms.
And anti-circumvention clauses are protecting creator freedoms.
Sure. Sure it is. Double-speak is fun.
 
Moreover, the Free Software Definition talks about "free" (adjective)
software having four "freedoms" (noun, plural).  Something under NC or
ND offers freedoms 0 and 2. .. The
result will fall short of being genuinely "free," but this is not an
abuse of the word "freedom."
 
 
Sure. And NC and ND are all about freedom baby.
Where did I put my tie-dye shirt.
 
All I need now is a monologue from Dennis Hopper
to explain why free is free and nothing can 't make it not free, man,
and it'll be perfect.
 
Saying using CC-NC-ND-BY is managing the "Freedoms" to your
work is a disgusting warpage of the language just to be on the "in" crowd.
 
Anyone arguing otherwise either does not understand the language,
or has a personal payoff at stake to be on the Freedom bandwagon,
rather than being accurate.
 
"War is Peace," "Freedom is Slavery," "Ignorance is Strength."
 
And CC-NC-ND-BY has NOTHING to do with Freedom,
nothing to do with managing Freedom. And assoctiating
CC-NC-ND-BY with "Freedom" has EVERYTHIGN to do
with people wanting to move the boundaries so they end
up on the side of the "good guys".
 
 

 



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