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- From: Rob Myers <rob AT robmyers.org>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC
- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:05:52 +0000
On 8 Feb 2006, at 17:10, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
"You may not use this work to advertise for or promote anything but
the work you create from it."
It's still a NC-like license... so not free by default. So not like
the GPL ;-)
I agree that CC-Sampling is not Free. But CC-Sampling allows commercial exploitation of the work *for* and *as* work, and so is not like NC. It gives sampling/remixing/mash-up practitioners the "freedom" to use the work as they would expect, as the GPL gives hackers and other computer users the "freedom" to use the work as they would expect.
The draft of the GPL version 3 allows licensors to add conditions to the license, one of which is that derivatives may not use the licensor's name in -er- advertising the product. :-)
Free Art License is a free license and there is no restriction like NC
or ND. Broader access is permitted with the Free Art License... than
the restrictive CCs.
But the FAL is domain specific. It does not help art get access to broader culture, or allow broader culture access to art. It would not help Andy Warhol, Jeff Koons, or Joy Garnett. CC-Sampling would help Negativland.
Just my IMHO,
Oh, me too. :-)
On 8 Feb 2006, at 17:49, Jamie Jensen wrote:
Actually, the GPL is only secondarily a social contract for hackers,
if it is one at all.
The GPL is a way of restoring the social contract of hackers culture that Stallman regarded as being broken at the MIT AI lab by the intrusion of non-disclosure agreements and the "Symbolics Wars".
Stallman rejects the Sampling license because he
believes that prohibiting noncommercial verbatim copying is unethical.
I agree. This is why the sampling plus license is better. But IMHO the principle of "transformative fair use" is as fundamental to art and music as the principle of "hacking" is to programming.
- Rob.
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[cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
rob, 02/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC, rob, 02/08/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
Alexandre Dulaunoy, 02/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC, Rob Myers, 02/08/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
Jamie Jensen, 02/08/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] What freedom is?,
j lipszyc, 02/08/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] What freedom is?,
Mike Linksvayer, 02/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] What freedom is?, j lipszyc, 02/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] What freedom is?, Jamie Jensen, 02/09/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] What freedom is?,
Mike Linksvayer, 02/08/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] What freedom is?,
j lipszyc, 02/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC, Greg London, 02/09/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
João Pinheiro, 02/10/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
j lipszyc, 02/12/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
Jamie Jensen, 02/13/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC, Maarten Wijnen-Meijer, 02/13/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
Jamie Jensen, 02/13/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Stallman On CC,
j lipszyc, 02/12/2006
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