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[Jack Qiu <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>]

Hi Alan, and everyone --

Thanks for sharing re: CreateHK. For your background knowledge, we did
NOT lobby HK Film Archive. It was them who approached us first a few
months ago. As you can see from Haggen's minutes, they've been quite
frustrated by the existing copyright system, which is why they want to
talk to us. It's great that they're considering CC as one of the
potential solutions. Our meeting the other day was simply to hear from
them and provide as much info as possible about CCHK.

The meeting was also a good learning experience for us, while being
instrumental in generating some new ideas such as the one re: Film
Development Fund (FDF). We in fact want to do more in this area,
relying on Haggen as the main node of the network as usual. And I'll
draft a follow-up email for this for Pindar and everyone who are
interested. The idea is to apply for funding from FDF to build a CC
platform for short films, at least that's the basic idea. It'll need
much more in-depth discussion and strategizing, probably off this
mailing list that involves everyone. But anyone interested please
email me.

Cheers,
jack

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Alan Lung<alanlung AT abcmconsulting.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that CC is lobbying at the wrong level. As an operating unit
> of LCSD, Hong Kong Film Archive is unlikely to be able to drive things
> forward. CreateHK(a newly created operating unit of CEDB's Communications &
> Technology Branch) is more likely the policy unit that will be in a position
> to move forward CC's wishes. CreateHK is also in charge of the Film
> Development Fund.
> www.CreateHK.gov.hk
>
> Regards,
> ALAN
>
> Alan Lung
> Director & General Manager
> Asia Pacific Intellectual Capital Centre
> www.apicc.asia
> Tel: +852 2503-1383
> Fax: +852 2503-3645
> e-mail: alanlung AT apicc.asia
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haggen So" <haggenso AT gmail.com>
> To: "Jack Qiu" <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>
> Cc: "cc-hk" <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] HK Film Archive
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> The meeting was re-schedule to last Tues and the minutes is attached below:
>
> Date / Time: 23 May (Tue), 11:10 am - 1:15pm
> Location: Shum Wai Yau Reading Room
> Attendants: Richie Lam, Jack Qiu, Jeromy Yu, Johnny Cheung, Haggen So
> Minutes: taken by Haggen
>
> 1.      Introduction of Creative Commons by Haggen and Jack including
> different business models using NC and lower quality formats. The
> group also exchanged view on the balance of copyright protection.
> 2.      Richie explained two difficulties that the film archive faced –
> orphan films (where the copyright holder could not be found) and no
> archive ordinance in HK. Haggen would direct his concerns to Yahong Li
> and Alice Lee for professional advice.
> 3.      CCHK could consider the “Film Development Fund”. The Film Archive,
> on the other hand, as a service provided by the Leisure and Cultural
> Services Department, would not participate. CCHK could consider
> collaboration with the film makers of the Independent Short Film and
> Video Awards (IFVA). Ms. Teresa Kwong of the Hong Kong Arts Centre
> could be contacted for the IFVA details.
> 4.      HK Film Archive could conduct a survey among both film copyright
> owners and potential users of these archives regarding the adoption of
> CC. The survey results could be then used to serve and structure
> future actions. Haggen would forward a softcopy of the RTHK
> questionnaire to Richie for his reference.
> 5.      A way to motivate copyright owners ("parents" of orphan films) to
> participate. First, selected a small number of prominent old/classic
> films with known copyright owners and obtained their approval. Second,
> digitized them and even gave them some new features using digital
> technology (now many of these old films are not digitized yet).
> Finally, these films could then be promoted on a centralized online
> platform using CC, which ideally would attract the "parents" of
> orphaned films to come out and release their classic works through CC,
> for the additional features or simply for the digitization of the
> films themselves.
> 6.      Jeromy Yu and Johnny Cheung presented the photo donation from
> German Federal Archive to Wikimedia and how HK Film Archive and
> Wikipedia could have common interests.
> 7.      Attendants would keep in contact and seek further opportunities for
> collaboration. In putting any proposal onwards, copyright matters and
> concerns should be well considered.
>
> Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/6/8 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>:
>>
>> Forgot to change the subject line
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jack Qiu<jacklqiu AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This Wed, June 10, I'll have lunch with Richie Lam, who directs the
>>> Hong Kong Film Archive, at University Guesthouse of CUHK. We'll start
>>> at 12:30 and talk about how HK Film Archive may adopt CC. We've been
>>> talking about having lunch together for quite a while and finally,
>>> with the help of my colleague Donna Chu, it'll happen this week.
>>>
>>> Anyone interested in joining us? If so, just drop me a line. Even if
>>> you're not coming, please still feel free to share your thoughts and
>>> suggestions with me. Thanks!
>>>
>>> BTW, how's the progress with RTHK's CC initiative?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.
>>>
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> School of Journalism and Communication,
>>> The Chinese University of Hong Kong
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.
>>
>> Assistant Professor
>> School of Journalism and Communication,
>> The Chinese University of Hong Kong
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Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.

Assistant Professor
School of Journalism and Communication,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong