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[Jack Qiu <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>]

That's wonderful, Mayella -- We're all on the same page!

Jack

2009/4/24 Mayella Cheung <cheungll AT rthk.org.hk>:
> Fyi, RTHK had also despatched the questionnaire to secondary school
> principals.
>
> Mayella
>
> Oiwan Lam wrote:
>
> i agree, we can just use the RTHK questionnaire and distribute it to
> teachers but i suggest also to put it online for general public - because
> netizens will talk about it and catch more attention.
>
> for teachers maybe good to contact 教協 and 教聯？they should have an email list
> for all their members.
>
>
> 2009/4/24 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>
>>
>> The RTHK questionnaire is already very elegant and yet helpful, and
>> should be good enough for wider distribution.
>>
>> I also second Pindar's idea about targeting secondary school teachers
>> teaching Liberal Studies. This semester I have a master in general
>> education class that consists of mostly such teachers from secondary
>> schools. The class is about globalization, one of the several
>> formidable subjects they have to cover in Liberal Studies. The
>> students already made their presentations using RTHK's video footage,
>> for example, on in a project that introduces fair trade to high school
>> students.
>>
>> What's the best way to reach this group, who may need to use RTHK
>> materials to benefit many more and younger students? HK Education
>> City?
>>
>> jack
>>
>> 2009/4/24 Mayella Cheung <cheungll AT rthk.org.hk>:
>>
>> > Thanks, Oiwan.
>> > I think that's a very good idea!
>> >
>> > Mayella
>> >
>> >
>> > Oiwan Lam wrote:
>> >
>> > in that case, we need more public pressure for the rthk's opening up.
>> > can we
>> > release the news to a wider public and do a online public survey by
>> > ourselves to create public opinion?
>> >
>> > 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> I have contacted Mayella Cheung of RTHK and this is her response.
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: Mayella Cheung <cheungll AT rthk.org.hk>
>> >> Date: 2009/4/23
>> >> Subject: Re: RTHK Consultation on CC
>> >> To: Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>> >> Cc: pindar.wong AT gmail.com, Charles Mok <mok AT hknet.com>, Ying Chan
>> >> <yychan AT hku.hk>
>> >>
>> >> Dear Haggen,
>> >> Glad to hear that!
>> >>
>> >> Since the CCHK was established in Nov last year, I have been trying to
>> >> "educate" RTHK Management and push for the setting up of a "RTHK
>> >> Creative
>> >> Archive".   It's not that easy as there are still some internal
>> >> resistance
>> >> at the senior level about opening up RTHK archives (especially from the
>> >> unit which handles RTHK programme licencsing of DVD/VCD).
>> >>
>> >> But fortunately the new Deputy Director of Broadcasting (ie. an AO from
>> >> the govt) seems to like my idea and asked me to draft the questionaire
>> >> to
>> >> first get some feedbacks from RTHK Programme Advisory Panel Members.  I
>> >> guess at least this is a good step to push it forward.
>> >> And besides the Advisory Panel members, I also sent the questionaire to
>> >> some academics and hope to seek their views as well.
>> >>
>> >> To make things happen, it would indeed be great and useful if there is
>> >> some outside support (eg. press write-ups) of this RTHK Creative
>> >> Archive
>> >> initiative :-)
>> >>
>> >> As I'm not in the CC-hk mailing group, pls feel free to post this up
>> >> for
>> >> me in your mailing list discussion.
>> >> And pls feel free to let me know if there is anything I can help.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Rgds,
>> >> Mayella Cheung
>> >> RTHK Deputy Head of New Media
>> >>
>> >> 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> > Pindar has some problem mailing to the list. Just repost.
>> >> >
>> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> > From: Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar AT pacific.net.hk>
>> >> > Date: 2009/4/23
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>> >> > To: Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>> >> > Cc: cc-hk <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Let me  try to respond to this substantively later today.
>> >> >
>> >> > In the meantime I would say ....
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) Consul With Liberal Studies Teachers in addition to University
>> >> > Staff
>> >> >
>> >> > Consulting with University teaching staff is helpful, but my sense is
>> >> > that consulting with senior secondary teaching staff, who are faced
>> >> > with the daunting task of deploying the New HKDSE, would lead to more
>> >> > direct and visible benefit to HK.
>> >> >
>> >> > Specifically consult with those teachers charged with deploying
>> >> > 'Liberal Studies' -- a corner stone of the new curriculum and,
>> >> > reading
>> >> > recent press, looking rather wobbly.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2) Baby Steps:
>> >> >
>> >> > It would be a big move for any institution to put a substantial part
>> >> > of its intellectual property on the Internet. RTHK * already* does so
>> >> > on the web and CCHK now provides an excellent legal means for RTHK to
>> >> > grow and move forward. That said, I think it would be prudent to
>> >> > start
>> >> > with 'baby steps' and start with content where there is a clear and
>> >> > immediate need for material to be licenced under CCHK.
>> >> >
>> >> > 3) Start with Selecting RTHK Material that will help with the
>> >> > deployment of the 1st Term (Sept 2009-Dec) of  'Liberal Studies'
>> >> > (which is now one of the 4 CORE subjects to be studied in senior
>> >> > secondary school)
>> >> >
>> >> > 4) Specifically RTHK could look at contributing material to support
>> >> >
>> >> > Liberal Studies 'M2: Hong Kong Today'
>> >> >
>> >> > e.g. providing examples of is numerous current affairs/calling/talk
>> >> > back programs which explore 'both sides' of an issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > 5) RTHK material is part of our cultural heritage, so try to convince
>> >> > them to keep there material online for more than their existing 2
>> >> > years would be a very positive step.
>> >> >
>> >> > More to follow ...
>> >> >
>> >> > p.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Haggen So wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> This is great news and everyone please continue to give suggestions.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> will follow up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Haggen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2009/4/23 Edmon <edmon AT isoc.hk>:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I know Joe Yau and Christline Loh are both very interested in this
>> >> >>> topic as
>> >> >>> well.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Sure... do you have anything specific in mind?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Edmon
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> From: sc AT itvoice.hk [mailto:sc AT itvoice.hk]
>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:31 AM
>> >> >>> To: Edmon
>> >> >>> Cc: 'Kenneth Yip'; 'Oiwan Lam'; 'cc-hk'
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Do we have this in other economies like Taiwan, etc.
>> >> >>> I mean, Edmon, we may utilize the concept of .Asia to do something.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> SC
>> >> >>> -----------------
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Edmon 提到:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> That sounds like a very progressive move!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How can we help to promote/push this to reality...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Edmon
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> >> >>> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Yip
>> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:24 PM
>> >> >>> To: Oiwan Lam
>> >> >>> Cc: cc-hk
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It will be even better if RTHK can open their archive under CC.  I
>> >> >>> am
>> >> >>> sure
>> >> >>> people can have many creative use of RTHK archive.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2009/4/22 Oiwan Lam <oiwan.lam AT gmail.com>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> RTHK is now consulting university teaching staffs on opening up of
>> >> >>> their
>> >> >>> archive under CC to public. it is a very good move. Should we write
>> >> >>> something to newspapers to alert people to fill up the feed back
>> >> >>> form?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> cheers, oiwan
>> >> >>>
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