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[Jack Qiu <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>]

The RTHK questionnaire is already very elegant and yet helpful, and
should be good enough for wider distribution.

I also second Pindar's idea about targeting secondary school teachers
teaching Liberal Studies. This semester I have a master in general
education class that consists of mostly such teachers from secondary
schools. The class is about globalization, one of the several
formidable subjects they have to cover in Liberal Studies. The
students already made their presentations using RTHK's video footage,
for example, on in a project that introduces fair trade to high school
students.

What's the best way to reach this group, who may need to use RTHK
materials to benefit many more and younger students? HK Education
City?

jack

2009/4/24 Mayella Cheung <cheungll AT rthk.org.hk>:
> Thanks, Oiwan.
> I think that's a very good idea!
>
> Mayella
>
>
> Oiwan Lam wrote:
>
> in that case, we need more public pressure for the rthk's opening up. can we
> release the news to a wider public and do a online public survey by
> ourselves to create public opinion?
>
> 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>>
>> I have contacted Mayella Cheung of RTHK and this is her response.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mayella Cheung <cheungll AT rthk.org.hk>
>> Date: 2009/4/23
>> Subject: Re: RTHK Consultation on CC
>> To: Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>> Cc: pindar.wong AT gmail.com, Charles Mok <mok AT hknet.com>, Ying Chan
>> <yychan AT hku.hk>
>>
>> Dear Haggen,
>> Glad to hear that!
>>
>> Since the CCHK was established in Nov last year, I have been trying to
>> "educate" RTHK Management and push for the setting up of a "RTHK Creative
>> Archive".   It's not that easy as there are still some internal resistance
>> at the senior level about opening up RTHK archives (especially from the
>> unit which handles RTHK programme licencsing of DVD/VCD).
>>
>> But fortunately the new Deputy Director of Broadcasting (ie. an AO from
>> the govt) seems to like my idea and asked me to draft the questionaire to
>> first get some feedbacks from RTHK Programme Advisory Panel Members.  I
>> guess at least this is a good step to push it forward.
>> And besides the Advisory Panel members, I also sent the questionaire to
>> some academics and hope to seek their views as well.
>>
>> To make things happen, it would indeed be great and useful if there is
>> some outside support (eg. press write-ups) of this RTHK Creative Archive
>> initiative :-)
>>
>> As I'm not in the CC-hk mailing group, pls feel free to post this up for
>> me in your mailing list discussion.
>> And pls feel free to let me know if there is anything I can help.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Rgds,
>> Mayella Cheung
>> RTHK Deputy Head of New Media
>>
>> 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Pindar has some problem mailing to the list. Just repost.
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar AT pacific.net.hk>
>> > Date: 2009/4/23
>> > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>> > To: Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>> > Cc: cc-hk <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>> >
>> >
>> > Let me  try to respond to this substantively later today.
>> >
>> > In the meantime I would say ....
>> >
>> > 1) Consul With Liberal Studies Teachers in addition to University Staff
>> >
>> > Consulting with University teaching staff is helpful, but my sense is
>> > that consulting with senior secondary teaching staff, who are faced
>> > with the daunting task of deploying the New HKDSE, would lead to more
>> > direct and visible benefit to HK.
>> >
>> > Specifically consult with those teachers charged with deploying
>> > 'Liberal Studies' -- a corner stone of the new curriculum and, reading
>> > recent press, looking rather wobbly.
>> >
>> > 2) Baby Steps:
>> >
>> > It would be a big move for any institution to put a substantial part
>> > of its intellectual property on the Internet. RTHK * already* does so
>> > on the web and CCHK now provides an excellent legal means for RTHK to
>> > grow and move forward. That said, I think it would be prudent to start
>> > with 'baby steps' and start with content where there is a clear and
>> > immediate need for material to be licenced under CCHK.
>> >
>> > 3) Start with Selecting RTHK Material that will help with the
>> > deployment of the 1st Term (Sept 2009-Dec) of  'Liberal Studies'
>> > (which is now one of the 4 CORE subjects to be studied in senior
>> > secondary school)
>> >
>> > 4) Specifically RTHK could look at contributing material to support
>> >
>> > Liberal Studies 'M2: Hong Kong Today'
>> >
>> > e.g. providing examples of is numerous current affairs/calling/talk
>> > back programs which explore 'both sides' of an issue.
>> >
>> > 5) RTHK material is part of our cultural heritage, so try to convince
>> > them to keep there material online for more than their existing 2
>> > years would be a very positive step.
>> >
>> > More to follow ...
>> >
>> > p.
>> >
>> > On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Haggen So wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is great news and everyone please continue to give suggestions. I
>> >> will follow up.
>> >>
>> >> Haggen
>> >>
>> >> 2009/4/23 Edmon <edmon AT isoc.hk>:
>> >>>
>> >>> I know Joe Yau and Christline Loh are both very interested in this
>> >>> topic as
>> >>> well.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sure... do you have anything specific in mind?
>> >>>
>> >>> Edmon
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: sc AT itvoice.hk [mailto:sc AT itvoice.hk]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:31 AM
>> >>> To: Edmon
>> >>> Cc: 'Kenneth Yip'; 'Oiwan Lam'; 'cc-hk'
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Do we have this in other economies like Taiwan, etc.
>> >>> I mean, Edmon, we may utilize the concept of .Asia to do something.
>> >>>
>> >>> SC
>> >>> -----------------
>> >>>
>> >>> Edmon 提到:
>> >>>
>> >>> That sounds like a very progressive move!
>> >>>
>> >>> How can we help to promote/push this to reality...
>> >>>
>> >>> Edmon
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> >>> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Yip
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:24 PM
>> >>> To: Oiwan Lam
>> >>> Cc: cc-hk
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> It will be even better if RTHK can open their archive under CC.  I am
>> >>> sure
>> >>> people can have many creative use of RTHK archive.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/4/22 Oiwan Lam <oiwan.lam AT gmail.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> RTHK is now consulting university teaching staffs on opening up of
>> >>> their
>> >>> archive under CC to public. it is a very good move. Should we write
>> >>> something to newspapers to alert people to fill up the feed back form?
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers, oiwan
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Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.

Assistant Professor
School of Journalism and Communication,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong