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  • From: John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
  • To: cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Cc: elliot AT creativecommons.org
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] CC Mixtape
  • Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:26:15 +0100

Hi Té et al

what remains to be done, maybe regarding the "B-Side"? I can spare some time today to do some final doing. I also set up a page to show the cover present links to all mirror sites here: http://europe.creativecommons.org/Mixtape

Elliot Harmon is in cc here to keep him in the loop ...

Best
John


Am 07.12.2012 12:27, schrieb Teresa Nobre:
In the final list of 20 tracks, 6 tracks will be ND. I required people
to send us tracks without ND, but not everyone was able to do it. As for
the NC, only 5 of the tracks in the initial list allowed for commercial
uses. Of those, only 2 made the final list.

When choosing the tracks that would make the final list, I did not look
at all for the licenses. I behaved not as the legal lead of CC Portugal,
but as the DJ I'm not ;-)

What's the message this show to people? I don't know... Maybe that
artists themselves are not those copyright fighters we want them to be...

What's the message we want to show to people? That a bunch of people,
not related with the music industry (with a few exceptions), can make
something good with their works just because they allowed us to use
their works by releasing it with CC.

This bunch of people could have passed a better message like "hey, there
are tons of music out there licensed for commercial uses" (which
wouldn't probably be true) or "hey, there's some music licensed for
commercial uses" (which would require from us much more time than that
we can commit as volunteers). Unfortunately, we will not be able to say
that, but I'm okay with that because - to be honest - that was not our
priority; we didn't even talked about it. Not because we don't think
that's important to show that there are works out there licensed for
commercial uses, but because we all assumed that such search would be
too difficult to even think about asking all the teams to do it. As for
the ND, we talked about it since the very beginning and we wanted (we
still want) a DJ to remixe the compilation and, hopefully, side B will
be remixed and we will be able to say "hey, if you had licensed your
track to allow derivative works, your track would be part of this nice
remixe".

Anyway, no matter what's the extent of the message we pass to the
public, for me, the most important aspect of this common project is that
16 European teams were able to work together to make it happen :) And
maybe I'm being biased (because I'm doing the actual compilation and
therefore I've listen to the tracks a thousand of times) but the project
even sounds goooooooooooood :)))))))))))))) What else could we wish for
Christmas? ;)

Beijos,
Teresa


2012/12/7 John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de
<mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>>

I can second Peter in that I was astonished, while searching for tracks,
about how many of them are ND.


Am 07.12.2012 10:26, schrieb Alek Tarkowski:
> it's a well known fact that among netlabels by-nc-sa is a standard.
>
> but i'm happy to say that the POlish band usta, fronted by Jarek
> Lipszyc, a prominent copyfighter, is proudly CC BYSA :)
>
> Alek
>
>> Square One Dr Peter Troxler (KvK 24480536)
<mailto:peter AT square-1.eu <mailto:peter AT square-1.eu>>
>> December 6, 2012 23:32
>> how comes that all these titles are nc (with the notable
exception of
>> Different Feelings by StrangeZero) ... and some even ND ... what
>> message does that send to ppl?
>>
>> On 6 Dec 2012, at 19:18 , Teresa Nobre wrote:
>>
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>> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>> December 6, 2012 19:18
>> Tks Nena. There's no need. That download was available for free ;)
>>
>> Guys, I have to run to my Yoga now ;) I'll be back after dinner.
>>
>> Meanwhile, don't forget that you can check what has been already
>> selected in this new list:
>>

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApOQ0cuKlKp3dE4tX1VjTDZiSUhmSVVURHg5UXFXeFE#gid=0
>>
>> B,
>> Teresa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>
>> Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative Commons
>> Portugal
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>> Nena Antic <mailto:n.a.advocatstudio AT gmail.com
<mailto:n.a.advocatstudio AT gmail.com>>
>> December 6, 2012 19:13
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:09 PM, John Hendrik Weitzmann
>> <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de
<mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
>> <mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de
<mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>>> wrote:
>>
>> well well, of course I downloaded "Jewel" before I suggested
it :) If
>> you still need it, let me know ...
>>
>>
>> same here (Jos jedan od onih dana). So, Teresa, let me know if I can
>> be of any further help.
>>
>> best,
>> Nena
>>
>>
>> Am 06.12.2012 14:46, schrieb Teresa Nobre:
>> > Problem solved: CC HQ is paying for this. I'll do the
downloads
>> myself.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Teresa
>> >
>> > 2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>> > <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>>
>> >
>> > Don't forget: paying is also a solution, if you don't want
>> to bother
>> > ;) It's less than 1€ for each team/track...
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>> > <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>>
>> >
>> > Ok, people, we have got another huge problem: not
all the
>> > selected tracks are available for free download
through the
>> > links you sent us!
>> >
>> > Germany, Serbia, Czech Republic, Belgium, Netherlands,
>> Slovakia
>> > and Poland, please share some of the
responsibility here and
>> > send us the files of your tracks that we have selected
>> for the
>> > compilation: please check the selected tracks here
>> >
>>

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApOQ0cuKlKp3dE4tX1VjTDZiSUhmSVVURHg5UXFXeFE
>> >
>> > Contact the artists or the labels to get the files or
>> send us
>> > another link where we can download the tracks for
free.
>> > Deadline: tomorrow (friday)!
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Teresa
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre
<teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>> > <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>>
>> >
>> > Actually, it's gonna be more than 20 songs. I like
>> Alek's
>> > idea too.
>> >
>> > Second version is my fav too, but I would like
to see a
>> > better contrast between the cassette and the
background,
>> > and, thus I asked Christian to try another
color (a
>> vivid
>> > color like purple, blue or green, or just grey).
>> >
>> > B,
>> > Teresa
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/12/6 CC Israel <cc AT creativecommons.org.il
<mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>
>> <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il
<mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>>
>> > <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il
<mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>
>> <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il
<mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>>>>
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > Wonderful news -alsoin my opinion -
version 2 is
>> awesome!
>> > Actually there are 19 songs - am I wrong?
>> >
>> > and for a catchy name - maybe it can be
"19 for a
>> > decade" or "Just 19 and cc-decade dream" (bad
>> name but
>> > the lyrics of "Special Needs" just pop up
in my
>> mind)
>> > or "CC Europe decade-Mixtape"
>> >
>> > or just leave it with the current name :)
>> >
>> > Dalit
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Alek Tarkowski
>> > <alek AT creativecommons.pl
<mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>
>> <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl
<mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>>
>> > <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl
<mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>
>> <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl
<mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Teresa,
>> >
>> > Do we have someone with experience who'll
>> put them
>> > in order? I think
>> > that right order will make a big
difference.
>> >
>> > AT
>> >
>> > Teresa Nobre wrote:
>> > > Please note that the tracks are not yet
>> in the
>> > final order of
>> > > appearance and that we might still
change
>> some of
>> > the selected tracks
>> > > that appear here.
>> >
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>> >
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>> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>> December 6, 2012 14:46
>> Problem solved: CC HQ is paying for this. I'll do the downloads
myself.
>>
>> Best,
>> Teresa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>
>> Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative Commons
>> Portugal
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>> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
<mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>> December 6, 2012 14:31
>> Don't forget: paying is also a solution, if you don't want to bother
>> ;) It's less than 1€ for each team/track...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>
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>> Portugal
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