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  • From: "Yannick H'Madoun" <yannick.hmadoun AT gmail.com>
  • To: John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
  • Cc: Elliot Harmon <elliot AT creativecommons.org>, cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] CC Mixtape
  • Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:03:23 +0100

I prefer the one with the two 'stickers', not sure why though. 

As for the B-side you'll have to go through the same process Teresa did for the A-side, which means, picking songs, adding all the information, harvesting the actual songs and uploading them in one place/folder. 

Teresa, did you already do the upload somewhere? Then I can pass it on to the netwaves people for the archive.org upload. 

So I understand Elliot will take care of FMA? Who will take care of Soundcloud? 

Best regards!
Yannick


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:26 AM, John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de> wrote:
Hi Té et al

what remains to be done, maybe regarding the "B-Side"? I can spare some
time today to do some final doing. I also set up a page to show the
cover present links to all mirror sites here:
http://europe.creativecommons.org/Mixtape

Elliot Harmon is in cc here to keep him in the loop ...

Best
John


Am 07.12.2012 12:27, schrieb Teresa Nobre:
> In the final list of 20 tracks, 6 tracks will be ND. I required people
> to send us tracks without ND, but not everyone was able to do it. As for
> the NC, only 5 of the tracks in the initial list allowed for commercial
> uses. Of those, only 2 made the final list.
>
> When choosing the tracks that would make the final list, I did not look
> at all for the licenses. I behaved not as the legal lead of CC Portugal,
> but as the DJ I'm not ;-)
>
> What's the message this show to people? I don't know... Maybe that
> artists themselves are not those copyright fighters we want them to be...
>
> What's the message we want to show to people? That a bunch of people,
> not related with the music industry (with a few exceptions), can make
> something good with their works just because they allowed us to use
> their works by releasing it with CC.
>
> This bunch of people could have passed a better message like "hey, there
> are tons of music out there licensed for commercial uses" (which
> wouldn't probably be true) or "hey, there's some music licensed for
> commercial uses" (which would require from us much more time than that
> we can commit as volunteers). Unfortunately, we will not be able to say
> that, but I'm okay with that because - to be honest - that was not our
> priority; we didn't even talked about it. Not because we don't think
> that's important to show that there are works out there licensed for
> commercial uses, but because we all assumed that such search would be
> too difficult to even think about asking all the teams to do it. As for
> the ND, we talked about it since the very beginning and we wanted (we
> still want) a DJ to remixe the compilation and, hopefully, side B will
> be remixed and we will be able to say "hey, if you had licensed your
> track to allow derivative works, your track would be part of this nice
> remixe".
>
> Anyway, no matter what's the extent of the message we pass to the
> public, for me, the most important aspect of this common project is that
> 16 European teams were able to work together to make it happen :) And
> maybe I'm being biased (because I'm doing the actual compilation and
> therefore I've listen to the tracks a thousand of times) but the project
> even sounds goooooooooooood :)))))))))))))) What else could we wish for
> Christmas? ;)
>
> Beijos,
> Teresa
>
>
> 2012/12/7 John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de
> <mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>>
>
>     I can second Peter in that I was astonished, while searching for tracks,
>     about how many of them are ND.
>
>
>     Am 07.12.2012 10:26, schrieb Alek Tarkowski:
>      > it's a well known fact that among netlabels by-nc-sa is a standard.
>      >
>      > but i'm happy to say that the POlish band usta, fronted by Jarek
>      > Lipszyc, a prominent copyfighter, is proudly CC BYSA :)
>      >
>      > Alek
>      >
>      >> Square One Dr Peter Troxler (KvK 24480536)
>     <mailto:peter AT square-1.eu <mailto:peter AT square-1.eu>>
>      >> December 6, 2012 23:32
>      >> how comes that all these titles are nc (with the notable
>     exception of
>      >> Different Feelings by StrangeZero) ... and some even ND ... what
>      >> message does that send to ppl?
>      >>
>      >> On 6 Dec 2012, at 19:18 , Teresa Nobre wrote:
>      >>
>      >> _______________________________________________
>      >> CC-Europe mailing list
>      >> CC-Europe AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:CC-Europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>      >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-europe
>      >> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>      >> December 6, 2012 19:18
>      >> Tks Nena. There's no need. That download was available for free ;)
>      >>
>      >> Guys, I have to run to my Yoga now ;) I'll be back after dinner.
>      >>
>      >> Meanwhile, don't forget that you can check what has been already
>      >> selected in this new list:
>      >>
>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApOQ0cuKlKp3dE4tX1VjTDZiSUhmSVVURHg5UXFXeFE#gid=0
>      >>
>      >> B,
>      >> Teresa
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> --
>      >>
>      >> Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>      >>
>      >> Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative Commons
>      >> Portugal
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>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
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>      >> Nena Antic <mailto:n.a.advocatstudio AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:n.a.advocatstudio AT gmail.com>>
>      >> December 6, 2012 19:13
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:09 PM, John Hendrik Weitzmann
>      >> <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de
>     <mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
>      >> <mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de
>     <mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>     well well, of course I downloaded "Jewel" before I suggested
>     it :) If
>      >>     you still need it, let me know ...
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> same here (Jos jedan od onih dana). So, Teresa, let me know if I can
>      >> be of any further help.
>      >>
>      >> best,
>      >> Nena
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>     Am 06.12.2012 14:46, schrieb Teresa Nobre:
>      >>     > Problem solved: CC HQ is paying for this. I'll do the
>     downloads
>      >>     myself.
>      >>     >
>      >>     > Best,
>      >>     > Teresa
>      >>     >
>      >>     > 2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>      >>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>      >>     > <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>      >>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>>
>      >>     >
>      >>     >     Don't forget: paying is also a solution, if you don't want
>      >>     to bother
>      >>     >     ;) It's less than 1€ for each team/track...
>      >>     >
>      >>     >
>      >>     >     2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>      >>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>      >>     >     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>      >>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>>
>      >>     >
>      >>     >         Ok, people, we have got another huge problem: not
>     all the
>      >>     >         selected tracks are available for free download
>     through the
>      >>     >         links you sent us!
>      >>     >
>      >>     >         Germany, Serbia, Czech Republic, Belgium, Netherlands,
>      >>     Slovakia
>      >>     >         and Poland, please share some of the
>     responsibility here and
>      >>     >         send us the files of your tracks that we have selected
>      >>     for the
>      >>     >         compilation: please check the selected tracks here
>      >>     >
>      >>
>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApOQ0cuKlKp3dE4tX1VjTDZiSUhmSVVURHg5UXFXeFE
>      >>     >
>      >>     >         Contact the artists or the labels to get the files or
>      >>     send us
>      >>     >         another link where we can download the tracks for
>     free.
>      >>     >         Deadline: tomorrow (friday)!
>      >>     >
>      >>     >         Thanks,
>      >>     >         Teresa
>      >>     >
>      >>     >
>      >>     >         2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre
>     <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>      >>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>
>      >>     >         <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>      >>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>>
>      >>     >
>      >>     >             Actually, it's gonna be more than 20 songs. I like
>      >>     Alek's
>      >>     >             idea too.
>      >>     >
>      >>     >             Second version is my fav too, but I would like
>     to see a
>      >>     >             better contrast between the cassette and the
>     background,
>      >>     >             and, thus I asked Christian to try another
>     color (a
>      >>     vivid
>      >>     >             color like purple, blue or green, or just grey).
>      >>     >
>      >>     >             B,
>      >>     >             Teresa
>      >>     >
>      >>     >
>      >>     >             2012/12/6 CC Israel <cc AT creativecommons.org.il
>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>
>      >>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il
>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>>
>      >>     >             <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il
>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>
>      >>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il
>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>>>>
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                 Hi,
>      >>     >                 Wonderful news -alsoin my opinion -
>     version 2 is
>      >>     awesome!
>      >>     >                 Actually there are 19 songs - am I wrong?
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                 and for a catchy name - maybe it can be
>     "19 for a
>      >>     >                 decade" or "Just 19 and cc-decade dream" (bad
>      >>     name but
>      >>     >                 the lyrics of "Special Needs" just pop up
>     in my
>      >>     mind)
>      >>     >                   or "CC Europe decade-Mixtape"
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                 or just leave it with the current name :)
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                 Dalit
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Alek Tarkowski
>      >>     >                 <alek AT creativecommons.pl
>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>
>      >>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl
>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>>
>      >>     >                 <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl
>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>
>      >>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl
>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>>>> wrote:
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                     Teresa,
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                     Do we have someone with experience who'll
>      >>     put them
>      >>     >                     in order? I think
>      >>     >                     that right order will make a big
>     difference.
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                     AT
>      >>     >
>      >>     >                     Teresa Nobre wrote:
>      >>     >                      > Please note that the tracks are not yet
>      >>     in the
>      >>     >                     final order of
>      >>     >                      > appearance and that we might still
>     change
>      >>     some of
>      >>     >                     the selected tracks
>      >>     >                      > that appear here.
>      >>     >
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>      >> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
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>      >> December 6, 2012 14:46
>      >> Problem solved: CC HQ is paying for this. I'll do the downloads
>     myself.
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>      >> Best,
>      >> Teresa
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>      >> December 6, 2012 14:31
>      >> Don't forget: paying is also a solution, if you don't want to bother
>      >> ;) It's less than 1€ for each team/track...
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