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  • From: Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
  • To: John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
  • Cc: cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] CC Mixtape
  • Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:27:42 +0000

In the final list of 20 tracks, 6 tracks will be ND. I required people to send us tracks without ND, but not everyone was able to do it. As for the NC, only 5 of the tracks in the initial list allowed for commercial uses. Of those, only 2 made the final list. 

When choosing the tracks that would make the final list, I did not look at all for the licenses. I behaved not as the legal lead of CC Portugal, but as the DJ I'm not ;-) 

What's the message this show to people? I don't know... Maybe that artists themselves are not those copyright fighters we want them to be...

What's the message we want to show to people? That a bunch of people, not related with the music industry (with a few exceptions), can make something good with their works just because they allowed us to use their works by releasing it with CC.

This bunch of people could have passed a better message like "hey, there are tons of music out there licensed for commercial uses" (which wouldn't probably be true) or "hey, there's some music licensed for commercial uses" (which would require from us much more time than that we can commit as volunteers). Unfortunately, we will not be able to say that, but I'm okay with that because - to be honest - that was not our priority; we didn't even talked about it. Not because we don't think that's important to show that there are works out there licensed for commercial uses, but because we all assumed that such search would be too difficult to even think about asking all the teams to do it. As for the ND, we talked about it since the very beginning and we wanted (we still want) a DJ to remixe the compilation and, hopefully, side B will be remixed and we will be able to say "hey, if you had licensed your track to allow derivative works, your track would be part of this nice remixe".

Anyway, no matter what's the extent of the message we pass to the public, for me, the most important aspect of this common project is that 16 European teams were able to work together to make it happen :) And maybe I'm being biased (because I'm doing the actual compilation and therefore I've listen to the tracks a thousand of times) but the project even sounds goooooooooooood :)))))))))))))) What else could we wish for Christmas? ;)

Beijos,
Teresa


2012/12/7 John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
I can second Peter in that I was astonished, while searching for tracks,
about how many of them are ND.


Am 07.12.2012 10:26, schrieb Alek Tarkowski:
> it's a well known fact that among netlabels by-nc-sa is a standard.
>
> but i'm happy to say that the POlish band usta, fronted by Jarek
> Lipszyc, a prominent copyfighter, is proudly CC BYSA :)
>
> Alek
>
>> Square One Dr Peter Troxler (KvK 24480536) <mailto:peter AT square-1.eu>
>> December 6, 2012 23:32
>> how comes that all these titles are nc (with the notable exception of
>> Different Feelings by StrangeZero) ... and some even ND ... what
>> message does that send to ppl?
>>
>> On 6 Dec 2012, at 19:18 , Teresa Nobre wrote:
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> December 6, 2012 19:18
>> Tks Nena. There's no need. That download was available for free ;)
>>
>> Guys, I have to run to my Yoga now ;) I'll be back after dinner.
>>
>> Meanwhile, don't forget that you can check what has been already
>> selected in this new list:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApOQ0cuKlKp3dE4tX1VjTDZiSUhmSVVURHg5UXFXeFE#gid=0
>>
>> B,
>> Teresa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>
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>> Portugal
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>> Nena Antic <mailto:n.a.advocatstudio AT gmail.com>
>> December 6, 2012 19:13
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:09 PM, John Hendrik Weitzmann
>> <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de
>> <mailto:jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>> wrote:
>>
>>     well well, of course I downloaded "Jewel" before I suggested it :) If
>>     you still need it, let me know ...
>>
>>
>> same here (Jos jedan od onih dana). So, Teresa, let me know if I can
>> be of any further help.
>>
>> best,
>> Nena
>>
>>
>>     Am 06.12.2012 14:46, schrieb Teresa Nobre:
>>     > Problem solved: CC HQ is paying for this. I'll do the downloads
>>     myself.
>>     >
>>     > Best,
>>     > Teresa
>>     >
>>     > 2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>>     > <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>
>>     >
>>     >     Don't forget: paying is also a solution, if you don't want
>>     to bother
>>     >     ;) It's less than 1€ for each team/track...
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>>     >     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>
>>     >
>>     >         Ok, people, we have got another huge problem: not all the
>>     >         selected tracks are available for free download through the
>>     >         links you sent us!
>>     >
>>     >         Germany, Serbia, Czech Republic, Belgium, Netherlands,
>>     Slovakia
>>     >         and Poland, please share some of the responsibility here and
>>     >         send us the files of your tracks that we have selected
>>     for the
>>     >         compilation: please check the selected tracks here
>>     >
>>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApOQ0cuKlKp3dE4tX1VjTDZiSUhmSVVURHg5UXFXeFE
>>     >
>>     >         Contact the artists or the labels to get the files or
>>     send us
>>     >         another link where we can download the tracks for free.
>>     >         Deadline: tomorrow (friday)!
>>     >
>>     >         Thanks,
>>     >         Teresa
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >         2012/12/6 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>>     >         <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>>     <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>>>
>>     >
>>     >             Actually, it's gonna be more than 20 songs. I like
>>     Alek's
>>     >             idea too.
>>     >
>>     >             Second version is my fav too, but I would like to see a
>>     >             better contrast between the cassette and the background,
>>     >             and, thus I asked Christian to try another color (a
>>     vivid
>>     >             color like purple, blue or green, or just grey).
>>     >
>>     >             B,
>>     >             Teresa
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >             2012/12/6 CC Israel <cc AT creativecommons.org.il
>>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>
>>     >             <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il
>>     <mailto:cc AT creativecommons.org.il>>>
>>     >
>>     >                 Hi,
>>     >                 Wonderful news -alsoin my opinion - version 2 is
>>     awesome!
>>     >                 Actually there are 19 songs - am I wrong?
>>     >
>>     >                 and for a catchy name - maybe it can be "19 for a
>>     >                 decade" or "Just 19 and cc-decade dream" (bad
>>     name but
>>     >                 the lyrics of "Special Needs" just pop up in my
>>     mind)
>>     >                   or "CC Europe decade-Mixtape"
>>     >
>>     >                 or just leave it with the current name :)
>>     >
>>     >                 Dalit
>>     >
>>     >                 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Alek Tarkowski
>>     >                 <alek AT creativecommons.pl
>>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>
>>     >                 <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl
>>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >                     Teresa,
>>     >
>>     >                     Do we have someone with experience who'll
>>     put them
>>     >                     in order? I think
>>     >                     that right order will make a big difference.
>>     >
>>     >                     AT
>>     >
>>     >                     Teresa Nobre wrote:
>>     >                      > Please note that the tracks are not yet
>>     in the
>>     >                     final order of
>>     >                      > appearance and that we might still change
>>     some of
>>     >                     the selected tracks
>>     >                      > that appear here.
>>     >                     _______________________________________________
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>>     <mailto:CC-Europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>>
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>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >             --
>>     >
>>     >             Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>     >
>>     >             Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead
>>     Creative
>>     >             Commons Portugal
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>>     E: teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
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>>     >
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>>     >         Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>     >
>>     >         Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative
>>     >         Commons Portugal
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>>     >
>>     >     Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>     >
>>     >     Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative
>>     Commons
>>     >     Portugal
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>>     >
>>     > --
>>     >
>>     > Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>     >
>>     > Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative
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>> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> December 6, 2012 14:46
>> Problem solved: CC HQ is paying for this. I'll do the downloads myself.
>>
>> Best,
>> Teresa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>
>> Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative Commons
>> Portugal
>> M: (+351) 963491398 | E: teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com
>> <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>  | Skype: tenobre
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>>
>>
>> Teresa Nobre <mailto:teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
>> December 6, 2012 14:31
>> Don't forget: paying is also a solution, if you don't want to bother
>> ;) It's less than 1€ for each team/track...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Teresa Nobre, LL.M. IP (MIPLC)
>>
>> Intellectual Property Lawyer | Legal Project Lead Creative Commons
>> Portugal
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