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  • Subject: Re: [BL] extended partitions
  • Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:19:00 +0000 (UTC)

The problem described below (hdb or hdd with primary linux and logical linux partitions preventing hda2 3 and 4 from being found) occurred in a DFI computer with two different Maxtor hard drives. One but not the other had this same problem in a newer computer which normally recognizes all the DOS partitions properly (C D E F) even when hdb has an extended partition (which confuses all the other computers).

I reformatted the Maxtor drive with problems to three DOS primary partitions and one extended partition with four linux logical partitions and things are back to normal again. Possibly the partitioning on this drive was messed up - I deleted everything and started over (for the second time - it had already been messed up once). Or the presence of a real D: (DOS) partition on the second drive prevented problems with the first drive.

I understand why Steven did not provide hdb5 etc and warned us away from extended partitions. This is a mess!!!!

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

A while back I reported that when I made an extended partition hdb4 in
which to make logical linux partitions hdb5 hdb5 etc., on all but one
computer the extended partition became D:, and on my DOS drive hda I now
had partitions C: E: F: (G: being the CD-ROM drive). The fourth DOS
partition is no longer accessible so I can have only three primary
partitions on hda.

We were recently given 6 DFI computers/motherboards with 3 expansion
slots, top of the line for 1999, for which we rounded up enough 500-500MHz
cpus. (In theory they went to 8x133MHz but the voltages were wrong for
even a 733MHz cpu). ISA slots allow internal hardware modem, SB16 sound,
and MGA cards. Like earlier DFI computers Xvesa only works if you bypass
config.sys (same on some Compaq and Emachines). I need to learn lilo.

We were also given a few large hard drives 8-15GB which I partitioned as
three primary, one extended and one or more logical for linux, and copied
all my linuxes too (BL2, BL3.40, BL3.50, a partition with tgz and source
code and photos, and a spare or two).

If I put in a DOS drive with four partitions and one of these linux
drives, I no longer have C: E: F: partitions on hda, I have only C:

Unplugging the linux drive restores D: E: F:.

Both the drives had partition problems so I redid them both. hda had 72MB
bad at the end. I replaced both drives. The problem persisted - I had
the choice of C: D: E: F: on hda and no hdb, or C: on hda and all of hdb.

I was getting hardware error message at boot time so removed the AWE64
sound card. The error turned out to be AWE32 was dead. FM synthesis too.
The sound works otherwise. Not related.

We did a test by partitioning a different small drive (hdb) with one
extended partition and one logical ext2 partition. hda now has C: E: F:
again (but not D: - D: is the extended partition on hdb.)

We did not check what happens if hdb has one primary and one extended
partition.

I am told you need a primary partition to boot DOS from.

The solutions are:

1. On most computers (where files in D: disappear when you make any
extended partition on hdb) do not put any files in hda2 (which becomes
inaccessible from DOS). Make a very small partition, format it, but don't
use it.

2. On DFIs and similar nuisances where having three primary and one
extended partition on hdb (or maybe even one primary and an extended)
causes all but C: to disappear from the master drive hda, format the
second drive without any primary partitions, just one extended partition
with logical partitions, and DOS will find three of the four primary
partitions on the first drive. (Proceed as in 1. to deal with D:).

Other possibilities (choose one or more).

1. Don't make any extended partitions on hdb - put BL3.50 into 5GB and
wait longer for it to boot.

2. Make only one primary partition on hda so there is nothing to get
lost. Delete all those old DOS programs you no longer use. (And wish you
hadn't, when ppmtolj prints a pgm file solid black, but printgif prints it
correctly).

3. Use only one hard drive. Make one primary DOS partition, one extended
partition, and as many logical DOS and linux partitions as you want on the
8GB drive. Four 300MB DOS partitions, a couple 200MB partitions for BL3
versions, 2GB for BL2, 2GB for photos and stuff....

Someone else suggested this already.

Would it also work to have three primary and one extended partition on one
drive hda?

What on earth do people do with 120GB drives?

Sindi

keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

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