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["Ron Clarke" <ariadne AT ausreg.com>]

Hi Lee,

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:46:37 +0000, Lee Forrest wrote:

>> > > > I'd say that I am probably the closest (because I don't mess
>> > > > around with  printing or MIME or video or audio or PDF/PS or
>> > > > Windows' files or a GUI browser...)
>> > >
>> > >    I would guess that that is because you don't need to use those 
>> > > things
>> > > for your job/career/education or amusement.
>> >
>> > One arranges ones life as one wishes. No is _forced_ to use any
>> > of those applications.

>>    Correct.  :)

>> > I wouldn't _do_ anything that required
>> > their use.

>>    And its your choice.   :)

> You didn't say "choice", Ron, you said "need". There's a big difference.

  And I just said choice.

>> > As for needing them for amusement, specifically, I find that
>> > notion to be preposterous. There are about a million ways to
>> > amuse oneself, and the overwhelming majority don't require a
>> > computer, much less those specific programs.

>>    Well _I_ find much about computers and computing to be amusing. And
>> interesting and entertaining, and frustrating, and challenging, and 
instructive.

> That's _my_ point. The idea of anything as fascinating as a
> computer and the Internet needing a special application for
> entertainment is absurd.

    There are other entertainments than that.  :)

>>    And I have a life as well.  :)

> Between computers and chemistry, I figure you've got time to eat, shower,
> sleep, and go to bathroom. Where you get your exercise remains a mystery
> to me at this point.

   I work, I play, I do what I have to do, and then I do whatever I like
doing. I also have a Beagle bitch who requires about 2 km of walking
during the course of the day. I have half an acre of productive land. We
are renovating the bathroom (having done the kitchen) and the laundry is
still to do. And I work from a home office - yes ! - on the (DOS) computer.

   Who needs exercise ?

> I deliberately have a job that is very active. If
> I didn't, the computer would have to go.

> For _you_ I would recommend a frisbee club or the like over
> computer games or watching videos.

   That's very patronising, Lee !     :(

   I don't play computer games. Not any more. Not since they stopped
making any more Leisure Suit Larry games.  :(

   And I am getting too old for a frisbee club.  Even more sadly, I am
too old and arthritic to play cricket anymore. Or even any of my musical
instruments - which really IS depressing - and which is the main reason
why I have turned to multimedia on the computer. I _have_ to create
music, and bugger the energy that it takes to run a computer for that.

>> > I'm into tiny linux out of principles. Same reason I use a
>> > dial-up connection as long as I am operating as a simple user
>> > (not running a serious server, etc.).

>>    Ah !

> Ha!

>> > Live simply that others might simply live.

>>    Ah !

> Ha!

>> > Ghandi said that. As well as a lot of other folks generally considered
>> > to be wise beyond the norm, throughout history.

>>    Ah !

> Ha!

>> > The more software you have, and the more complex that software
>> > is, and the faster your connection, the more hardware and energy
>> > you require. Both on your computer and for your share of the
>> > Internet's infrastructure and its operation.

>>    Ah !

> Ha!

>> > That hardware and energy is produced by Industry. Mines and
>> > powerplants and factories and such. Environmental degradation.

>>    Ah !

> Ha!

>> > I included the crosspost to Sindi because she claims to be an
>> > environmentalist.

>>     Hi Sindi !  :)

>> > > > but I _do_ have development tools that add scores of megabytes to the
>> > > > size of BL.
>> > >
>> > >   OK, I guess I was wrong about your amusement.  :)
>> >
>> > I find it _very_ entertaining, Ron,

>>    There ya go !

>> > A lot of people do. Be thankful. Without them you wouldn't have an OS or
>> > any applications, or an Internet.

>>    Of course.

> :-)

> Later,

> Lee

   Isn't it good we are all different. :)
Otherwise it would be a boring old world.

Regards,
        Ron

Ron Clarke
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