Skip to Content.
Sympa Menu

baslinux - Re: [BL] Copying with 2-button mouse in Xvesa without Xconfig

baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org

Subject: Baslinux mailing list

List archive

Chronological Thread  
  • From: sindi keesan <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>
  • To: baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [BL] Copying with 2-button mouse in Xvesa without Xconfig
  • Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:15:47 +0000 (UTC)

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, David Moberg wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "sindi keesan" <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>

Can you telnet from one terminal and run X from another, in both
cases accessing the programs and/or modem connection on the server?

How do you want this? There are multiple possibilities. You could, of
course, have all your X programs on a machine with a large hard drive,
and have them displayed on a machine with a monitor plugged into it.
I would do that by running telnetd on the machine with the large drive,
and then I'd startxt (is that a verb??) and run telnet on the machine
with a monitor. Then in telnet I'd export DISPLAY and start running
programs with telnet. Of course, just running rxvt would probably be
easier.

Steven said NOT to telnet, just export DISPLAY on the server and load X with startxt on the client, in order to run programs from server on client in X. I telnet to run CLI programs. Have not tried doing both at once but I was indeed able to run X on both computers. Opera and links2 won't work on the laptop BL3, because it still only does 4 colors with startx (startx won't work at all but startxt gets the X from elsewhere and displays it in 4 colors).

My question above was could you in vt1 telnet to the server, and in vt2 startxt, and switch between them thus running CLI and X programs on the client, which programs are located in the server.


My partner wants to telnet in to our bbs on both terminals at once,
with no need to Alt-F1/Alt-F2 to switch, and do a 'talk' with each
other. I already have a two-monitor setup on one computer but only
one keyboard.
We could do this with two laptop computers and one modem.

How would you switch keyboards in this case? Or could you use two
rxvts?

No rxvts needed if you telnet. Telnet from CLI. Two computers with one keyboard each connected via parallel transfer cable. Set up plip, in.telnetd -debug on the server (which is dialed in with a modem to our local bbs with 'talk' on it, or I suppose I could install it here), telnet 192.168.1.1. from client and log in (as user, until I figure out again how to let root log in), and one person sits at each keyboard/computer. We could communicate between rooms this way with 'talk'.

Or with the dumb terminal method (serial cable) I could use as
client a 386 laptop computer with 1MB RAM, and DOS and kermit on a
boot disk and no hard drive. Or use an actual dumb terminal - we
have a portable one (plus two dead ones made a long time ago in our
city - Ann Arbor Ambassador).


I've always wanted to try using a dumb terminal with my setup here.
It would be handy to be able to have two people using one computer at
once. One could be checking their email with something like Sylpheed,
and I could be browsing with links on the terminal.

You need only have a nullmodem cable (or adaptor of some sort) plugged between the two computers and set up an agetty somehow (remember to change ttyS1 back to what it was if you want to use a serial mouse). There was a long discussion about this a while back (I learn slowly).
You need some terminal program - even microcom worked for me. A DOS terminal program will do it in 1 MB RAM with no hard drive (boot floppy with kermit or something smaller on it).

The telnet method is a lot simpler and can use serial, parallel, or ethernet connection. netmailsetup explains them all.

Of course no X this way, just CLI.

There are also those X terminals, but they're probably more expensive
than a BL3-equipped computer masquerading as an X terminal.

There are pieces of hardware actually called 'X terminal'? We have a portable dumb terminal with lots of different places to plug in various cables - don't know if it works. Handle and case.

Fine for reading email, links, practicing shell scripts while
someone else uses the computer for other things.

Heh-heh. I typed almost exactly the same thing above before I read
all of your message. :)

Or FTP, but I have not yet figured out how to move things between computers while telnetted - I tried to do a kermit file transfer while telnetted with kermit but nothing transferred. Will try again some day. Any ideas on how to download a file from the internet via the server to the client? I can get it as far as the server, then send/receive to client.


Fun. I have to try httpd some time soon. Any other features of BL3
you suggest learning on?

httpd is simple. Just cd to the directory you want to serve up, and
type httpd. Then open up a browser and type in your IP address to
access it.

While I am telnetted to the server? By 'your IP address' do you mean address of server: lynx 192.168.1.1? Or wget http://192.168.1.1/filename ? That would answer my question above about file transfer without having to type things on the server.


I can't think of any other interesting features to comment on at the
moment.

Enough to play with for a while. I just used my scsi scanner for real today - worked perfectly once I typed --mode before the L.

scanimage --mode L > filename.pbm and L may be default (lineart) depending on the scanner. Some are Color default. This is one of the few things I could not do with DOS.

I even have 80x34 text on here now (but it interferes with use of the two mda consoles - no cursor). I had to resizecons three times in a row to actually get the right number of lines as well as the right size letters.
DOS S3 only does 143x25 or 43, or 80x25 or less. There are a couple of other ways to change font size but they are monitor dependant and look as hard as X86config to set up, with refresh rates etc. With Tseng video I can get 100 columns text.

My partner is now happily copying the output of his little scripts to pico with two rxvts side by side, using a 2-button mouse in Xvesa (4 colors).

> David
--
_______________________________________________
NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at
once.
http://datingsearch.lycos.com

_______________________________________________
BasLinux mailing list
BasLinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/baslinux



keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org




Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.

Top of Page