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- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The Name "Esau"
- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:39:13 -0400 (EDT)
Isaac Fried: 1. You wrote: “The editor of Genesis knew very well what עשו means.” That’s almost right. The author of Genesis 25: 25 definitely knew what the name “Esau” means, that’s for sure. But he wasn’t an “editor”. No, he was the guy who came up with the name “Esau” in the first place. 2. You wrote: “He even resorted to a little sly visual obfuscation by writing ayin for aleph, and waw for bet….” No, you’re changing the Hebrew letters in the text there. There’s no need for that. As we will see, ($W has an underlying meaning that perfectly describes Esau’s appearance at his birth, with there being no need whatsoever to change any of the Hebrew letters. 3. You
wrote: “He even resorted to a
little sly visual obfuscation by writing ayin for aleph, and waw for bet to turn
the alien אשאב or אישאב into עשו, a clever spelling modification to take
both the eye and the mind away from idols and into thinking about עשב
'grass'. The theophoric איש I$ is
very common, as in ישמעאל I$MAEL, שמעון $IMON, אכיש AKIY$, כמוש KMO$ (KMO-I$?), and many more.” )Y$ is not present in a single one of the names that you cite! It’s not there in “Esau”, or “Ismael”, or “Simon”. 4. You wrote: “Likewise the theophoric אב AB.” Yes, )B means “[the divine] Father” in a proper name, and as such is a theophoric. But the vav/W as the third letter in ($W/“Esau” is not )B, for heaven’s sake. 5. There’s no )Y$- in ($W, and there’s no -)B in ($W either. Rather, we should look at the Hebrew letters in the
received text, as is, and ask if Esau’s mother, Rebekah, who hailed from Bronze
Age At least you don’t take the scholarly view that the
author of Genesis 25: 25 was like modern scholars themselves in having no
earthly idea what the name “Esau” means.
But unfortunately you seem to accept the [100% erroneous] scholarly view
that the author of Genesis 25: 25 was incapable of thinking how Rebekah from
Bronze Age Syria would have viewed the name ($W. The key to solving this 3,500-year-old
Biblical mystery is simply to ask how Rebekah would have viewed the name
($W. Then the meaning and etymology
of the name ($W will become clear, and we will see how truly brilliant the
author of the Patriarchal narratives was, and how ancient as a written text and
how historically accurate the Patriarchal narratives are. Jim Stinehart |
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[b-hebrew] The Name "Esau",
JimStinehart, 08/28/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] The Name "Esau", Isaac Fried, 08/28/2013
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