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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: Stewart Felker <stewart.felker AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The Name "Esau"
  • Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:40:15 -0400

1. It is true that there are photographs of Akkadian and Ugaritic cuneiform tablets online. What is written there I don't know; what other people say is written there I doubt.

2. Proto-Semitic is a legend. 

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:34 AM, Stewart Felker wrote:

Well, there's a sense in which I can't independently verify the existence of the state of Idaho, as I've never stepped foot in it (or even flown over it). But surely I can read books and look at photographs of it - in the same way that you can find photographs of Akkadian and Ugaritic cuneiform tablets online, and then find the transliterated text, and look at syntax, verb forms, and lexical material, and verify that they are attested languages.

I'm curious: does your skepticism only apply to languages descended from Proto-Semitic - or do you deny the existence of Hittite and Sanskrit and Mycenaean Greek too?


On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:

No. The tentatively reconstructed languages are unacceptable because I have no way of independently verifying the veracity of what is being said about them. 

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Aug 28, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Stewart Felker wrote:

Question: are languages other than Hebrew (and...Aramaic?) unacceptable to talk about because they're corruptions of the primordial  heavenly tongue?


SF


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
1. Rebekah's family spoke some sort of Hebrew-Aramaic.

2. Their gods were the gods of the east, and they named their 
children after them. All names from that period are theophoric, 
including יצחק IYCXAQ, which I think is a deliberate corruption 
of איש-חק  I$-XAQ or איש-שחק I$-$AXAQ. Recall יששכר which 
is certainly איש-שכר I$-SAKAR.

2. I will listen to your ideas under the condition that you refrain 
from mentioning any other language but Hebrew and Aramaic.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Aug 28, 2013, at 5:39 PM, JimStinehart AT aol.com wrote:

how Rebekah would have viewed the name ($W.  Then the meaning and etymology of the name ($W will become clear


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