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- From: jimstinehart AT aol.com
- To: dekruidnootjes AT eircom.net
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org, jonathan.mohler AT gmail.com
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah
- Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:58:10 -0400 (EDT)
Chris Watts:
You wrote: “There are
two new years so to speak separated by 6 months, but this in no way ever did
imply that the jewish year was six months long.
Never.”
Logically, then, a Hebrew’s age might be counted in any one
of the following three ways:
1. How many times the
first day of a civil New Year had been observed.
2. How many times the
first day of a religious New Year had been observed.
3. How many times the
first day of each New Year [both civil and religious New Years] had been
observed.
When Abraham is said to live to age 175 shanah, then
realistically, the method of counting that Hebrew’s age must be #3. Abraham had witnessed the first day of 175
New Years: 88 civil New Years and 87
religious New Years. Abraham thus lives
to stated age 175 shanah, meaning that Abraham is portrayed as having lived to
the realistic age of 87½ years in 12-month years.
Yes, the civil year is 12 months, and the religious year is
12 months. But a Hebrew’s age could be
expressed in terms of how many total New Years had passed, counting the first
day of both civil New Years and religious New Years. For the lifespans set forth in the Patriarchal
narratives, the only realistic result is if each person’s stated age is set
forth in terms of how many total New Years [the first day of both civil New
Years and religious New Years] had been observed. Every 12 months features the first day of two
such New Years: a civil New Year and a religious
New Year.
The archaic meaning of “shanah” was “the head of the year”
or “the turn of the year” or “the equinox year”: that is, a 6-month period. The early Hebrew author of the Patriarchal narratives
was well aware of, and used appropriately, both the archaic and the non-archaic
meaning of the word “shanah”. All person’s
ages in the Patriarchal narratives are set forth in terms of 6-month periods,
per the archaic meaning of shanah. For
example, Ishmael is not portrayed as living a miraculously long life, dying at
age 137 years in 12-month years. What would
be the point of that? No, Ishmael is
said at Genesis 25: 17 to live 137 shanah, meaning that during Ishmael’s life,
the first day of 137 total New Years, both religious New Years and civil New
Years, had been observed. Thus Ishmael
lived to age 68½ years in 12-month years, which is a realistic lifespan.
Jim
Stinehart
Evanston,
Illinois
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 too old for a husband,
Jonathan Mohler, 07/22/2013
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 too old for a husband, Jonathan Mohler, 07/22/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 too old for a husband, Jonathan Mohler, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 too old for a husband,
JimStinehart, 07/22/2013
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[b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 "too old for a husband", cultic calendar, shanah,
Will Parsons, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 "too old for a husband", cultic calendar, shanah,
jimstinehart, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah,
Chris Watts, 07/23/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah,
jimstinehart, 07/23/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah,
Yigal Levin, 07/23/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah, Chris Watts, 07/23/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah, Chris Watts, 07/23/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah,
Yigal Levin, 07/23/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah,
jimstinehart, 07/23/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] , cultic calendar, shanah,
Chris Watts, 07/23/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 "too old for a husband", cultic calendar, shanah,
jimstinehart, 07/22/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 too old for a husband, Jonathan Mohler, 07/23/2013
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[b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 "too old for a husband", cultic calendar, shanah,
Will Parsons, 07/22/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1:12 too old for a husband, JimStinehart, 07/23/2013
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