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Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?
- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?
- Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:40:32 -0400 (EDT)
Ezekiel 16:3 can be viewed as being an accurate one-sentence summary of the Patriarchal narratives and of the historical background of the Patriarchal Age: “And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto The Amorites were west Semitic-speakers, and in this poetic passage, “Amorite” should be given an expansive meaning of “native west Semitic speakers: Amorites, Canaanites and Hebrews”. XTYis xu-ti-ya, the most frequently-attested Hurrian name
at Nuzi in the Late Bronze Age. 92
different people at the Hurrian “Ewri’s qualification H-XTY suggests that the man [‘Uriah
the Hittite’/XTY] was regarded as a foreigner, but one might surmise that XTY
was his proper name, viz. the frequent Hurrian name Xu-ti-ya.” “Itineraria The final Hebrew alphabetical yod/Y does double duty in these non-Semitic names. On the one hand, it’s the Hurrian true vowel A as its own separate syllable, here in the form of -ya or -ia. But on the other hand, the final yod/Y is also the generic west Semitic suffix that means “people”. So XTY means “the Praise Teshup people” [where -Y first means “Teshup” in Hurrian, and then also means “people” in Hebrew], that is, the Hurrians. Please note that XTY has n-o-t-h-i-n-g whatsoever to do with the classic
Hittites from eastern Anatolia, who were referred to as “Hatti” in the ancient
world [and who were never in What Ezekiel 16: 3 is saying is what I pointed out in my
last post: most of the married
couples in the Patriarchal narratives, including all three Patriarchs, follow a
very specific pattern. The husband,
and all his paternal ancestors, are native west Semitic speakers. The wife’s mother, by contrast, is an
ethnic Hurrian. Those are the
people who, per Ezekiel 16: 3, came to dominate Not only is Ezekiel 16: 3 accurate Biblically, but it’s
also accurate historically as well.
The key figure in Canaan who immediately pre-dates the first Hebrews, and
who overlaps with the first Hebrews, is the Amorite princeling Milk-i-Ilu of the
Thus I see Ezekiel as being accurate both as a
one-sentence summary of the Patriarchal narratives, and as a one-sentence
summary of the traumatic historical events that gave rise to the birth of the
Hebrews as a coherent, distinct, YHWH-loving people in Year 14. 7 out of 7 firstborn sons are portrayed
in the Patriarchal narratives as getting the shaft and properly so: If George Athas were right and my views have been “refuted”, with the Patriarchal narratives being late as a written text and largely fictional, then it would not be possible for virtually the entirety of the Patriarchal narratives to match up so closely, down to the most minute details of names and specific years, with what is historically attested in the Amarna Letters. Jim Stinehart P.S. As to TMN( [mis-transliterated as “Timna”] at Genesis 36: 12, that is ta-ma-ni Semiticized or ta-am-ni Semiticized. Ta-ma or ta-am is a Hurrian root of the following Hurrian names: Ta-ma-a-a, Ta-a-ma-ku, and the woman’s name Ta-am-$i. -a-a-, -ku, -$i and -ni are all standard Hurrian suffixes. The final alphabetical ayin/( is the old-style way of showing that a Hurrian name has been Semiticized, as in BR( and BR$( at Genesis 14: 2. The Semiticization of the name TMN( [“Timna”] means that this Hurrian woman married a native west Semitic-speaking son of Esau and though merely a concubine, threw in her lot with Esau’s native west Semitic-speaking descendants. |
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Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?, Chris Watts, 07/14/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?, George Athas, 07/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?, K Randolph, 07/14/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?, George Athas, 07/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?, K Randolph, 07/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Amalek's attacks before the big battle of Ex 17:8?, Chris Watts, 07/11/2013
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