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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
- From: "J. Leake" <jesleake AT yahoo.co.uk>
- To: Petr Tomasek <petr.tomasek AT evangnet.cz>, Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
- Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:35:11 +0100 (BST)
The if'alla form is hardly rare, Petr, though it is the rarest of the comon forms. But if we're going to go onto rare forms, the if'awwala precisely infixes a waw.
John Leake
'inna SâHiba Hayâtin hanî'atin lâ yudawwinuhâ: 'innamâ, yaHyâhâ.
(He who lives a comfortable life doesn't write about it - he lives it.)
Tawfiq al-Hakim, Yawmiyyât Nâ'ib fil-'Aryâf.
(He who lives a comfortable life doesn't write about it - he lives it.)
Tawfiq al-Hakim, Yawmiyyât Nâ'ib fil-'Aryâf.
From: Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz>
To: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2013, 21:53
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
To: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2013, 21:53
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:02:55AM -0700, Uri Hurwitz wrote:
> John,
>
> Yes, agreed that השתחוה is a biblical form of
> Istaf'ala, as is its forerunner in Ugaritic. I am
> familiar of the Arabic Af'ala , the equivalent of
> the Hebrerw Hif'il, but what is "if'alla" you mention?
It's the IX. stem in Arabic - a rather rare and specialized
stem (e.g. used with colours, like اِحْمَرَّ, iḥmarra...)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Petr, the difference between the root שחה and השתחוה is an extension by gemation of the last letter, which does otherwise occur in, say, the Arabic if'alla and if'ālla. But alhough you and I are both certain this is a hištaph'el, that's not how it was understood as in Biblical times.
Could you explain, please, how a gemmination of the last letter
could lead to an addition of consonantal wav?
> John Leake
Petr Tomasek
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship, Dave Washburn, 06/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship,
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship, Isaac Fried, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship,
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship,
J. Leake, 06/18/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship, Isaac Fried, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship,
J. Leake, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship,
Petr Tomasek, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship, J. Leake, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship, J. Leake, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship, Isaac Fried, 06/19/2013
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