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- From: jimstinehart AT aol.com
- To: kwrandolph AT gmail.com
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:08:55 -0500 (EST)
Karl:
You wrote: “Incidentally,
it was the translators of the LXX who called it the land of the Chaldeans. They
knew the Hebrew name, yet they chose to use a different name. What did they
know that our modern scholars don’t, or don’t want to, know?”
I thought the question we were discussing is whether the
unpointed received H-e-b-r-e-w Masoretic Text of the Patriarchal narratives
has pinpoint historical accuracy in the historical context of Years 12-14,
having been recorded in cuneiform, using west Semitic pre-Hebrew words, shortly
after Akhenaten’s death. I certainly
will not vouch for changes to the Masoretic Hebrew text made by Greek-speaking
Jews in the Septuagint, umpteen centuries after the fact.
One unfortunate aspect of the first written version of the
Patriarchal narratives having been recorded in cuneiform, rather than in
alphabetic Hebrew, is that the T sound [tav/T] was not always distinguished in
written cuneiform from the D sound [dalet/D].
So the people who changed the cuneiform text into alphabetic Hebrew centuries
later often had to guess, when dealing with strange foreign proper names, as to
which of those two Hebrew letters had been intended:
“[T]he scribe of Jerusalem [that is, IR-Heba’s scribe] will
use the same sign for both /te/ and /de/….”
Shomo Izre’el, “Vocalized Canaanite: Cuneiform-Written Canaanite Words in the
Amarna Letters”, DS-NELL V, N.R. 1-2 (2003), 13-34, at p.17. http://www.academia.edu/230041/Vocalized_Canaanite_Cuneiform-Written_Canaanite_Words_in_the_Amarna_Letters_Some_Methodological_remarks
Thus when we see K%DYM in the received Masoretic text in
alphabetic Hebrew, that dalet/D may originally have been a T sound. Consequently, the Akkadian feminine ending
that after a country name effectively meant “country” or “land”, namely “tu” [as in “Elamtu”, for example], could
come out in alphabetic Hebrew as either dalet/D or tav/T, because the original
cuneiform recording of this foreign proper name may not have distinguished between
those two sounds in cuneiform writing.
Thus where K% means “Kassite”, the next letter, dalet/D, may originally
have been meant to render a tav/T; that
would be the expected alphabetic Hebrew rendering in defective spelling of the
Akkadian ending “tu”.
So I see K% as being “Kassite”, with the Kassites being the
Late Bronze Age rulers of southern Mesopotamia.
Dalet/D was originally intended to render tav/T, and as such is the
Akkadian ending “tu”, in context
effectively meaning “land” or “country” [in lieu of the logogram sequence KUR…KI]. And of course the ending -YM is a standard west
Semitic ending meaning “people”. So K%DYM
refers to the “Kassite land people”.
Similarly, IR-Heba’s scribe in Jerusalem in Year 13 at Amarna Letter EA
288: 36 refers to southern Mesopotamia by the phrase “land of the Kassites” or “land
of the Kassite people”, namely “KUR…ka-a-si.KI”,
being essentially the same phrase as we see at Genesis 11: 28, 31; 15: 7.
These are the only two texts from Canaan that use such a phrase to refer
to southern Mesopotamia during the Late Bronze Age. The match in nomenclature is indeed quite
stunning.
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam
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- Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam, George Athas, 11/28/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
jimstinehart, 11/28/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam, Yigal Levin, 11/28/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 11/29/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam, Isaac Fried, 11/29/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
JimStinehart, 11/29/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
K Randolph, 11/29/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam, K Randolph, 11/29/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
K Randolph, 11/29/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
JimStinehart, 11/29/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
K Randolph, 11/29/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
jimstinehart, 11/29/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam, George Athas, 11/30/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
K Randolph, 11/30/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam -- ENDOF THREAD, Kirk Lowery, 11/30/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
jimstinehart, 11/29/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] gen 28 sulam,
K Randolph, 11/29/2012
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