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["Ishnian" <ishinan AT comcast.net>]

Isaac Fried wrote: 

 "5. The genetic relationship between Hebrew and Arabic is obscure and 
therefore their comparison is but anecdotal."

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Ishinan: What do you mean by "obscure"?  Would you be so kind to enlighten me.

Thanks in advance.

Ishinan Ishibashi
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Any one, answer please.
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Hardy
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] `atsuwm (STRONG, MIGHTY) was `ZZ

So the what are all your definition of El (Aleph Lamed)??
 And is not El (aleph Lamed) an Hebrew root word??

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Subject: [b-hebrew] `atsuwm (STRONG, MIGHTY) was `ZZ

 Isaac Fried wrote: No Hebrew root can mean 'might' or 'strength', but 'up, 
on' is good. -------------------------------------------------------------- 
THE COUNTER ARGUMENT Besides `zz there are additional Hebrew words for 
strong, strength, might etc. for example: (6099) `atsuwm; passive participle 
of '`atsam' (BTW initial letter is `ayn) (6105); powerful (specifically, a 
paw); by implication, numerous:--+ great, mighty, must, strong. (6106) `etsem 
from '`atsam' (6105); a bone (as strong); by extension, the body; 
figuratively, the substance, i.e. (as pron.) selfsame:--body, bone, X life, 
(self-)same, strength, X very. See BDB p.782 # 6099 
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Here, the meaning of 'STRONG' is found in the following verses : Jos 23:9, 
Prov 7:26, Isa 8:7, Isa 53:12, Isa 60:22, Joel 1:6, Joel 2:2, Joel 2:5, Joel 
2:11, Micah 4:3, Micah 4:7, Zech 8:22 EXAMPLES: Jos 23:9 For the LORD hath 
driven out from before you great nations and STRONG: but [as for] you, no man 
hath been able to stand1 before you unto this day. Prov 7:26 For she hath 
cast down many wounded: yea, many STRONG [men] have been slain by her. Isa 
8:7 Now therefore, behold, the Lord bringeth up upon them the waters of the 
river, STRONG and many, [even] the king of Assyria, and all his glory: and he 
shall come up1 over all his channels, and go over1 all his banks: Isa 60:22 A 
little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a STRONG nation: the LORD 
will hasten it in his time. Joel 1:6 For a nation is come up upon my land, 
STRONG and without number, whose teeth [are] the teeth of a lion, and he hath 
the cheek teeth of a great lion. A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day 
of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon themountains: a 
great people and a STRONG; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall 
be any more after it, [even] to the years of many generations. Joel 2:5 Like 
the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the 
noise of a flame of fire thatdevoureth the stubble, as a STRONG people set in 
battle array. Joel 2:2 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: 
for his camp [is] very great: for [he is] STRONG that executeth his word: for 
the day of the LORD [is] great and very terrible; and who can abide55 it? 
Micah 4:3, And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke STRONG nations 
afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears 
into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither 
shall they learn war any more. Micah 4:7, And I will make1 her that halted a 
remnant, and her that was cast far off a STRONG nation: and the LORD 
shallreign1 over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever. Zech 8:22 
Yea, many people and STRONG nations shall come1 to seek5 the LORD of hosts in 
Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD. More examples:-) mightier Exo 1:9, 
Num 14:12, Deu 4:38, Deu 7:1, Deu 9:1, Deu 9:14, Deu 11:23 mighty Gen 18:18, 
Num 22:6, Deu 26:5, Psa 135:10, Prov 18:18, Dan 8:24, Dan 11:25, Amos 5:12 
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