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- From: Will Parsons <wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu>
- To: Yigal.Levin AT biu.ac.il
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur
- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:24:58 -0500 (EST)
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 00:31:37 +0200, Yigal Levin <Yigal.Levin AT biu.ac.il> wrote:
> I have not checked this, and since I'm sitting at the food court of the
> Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco at the moment I have no way to
> check, but I think that the root of Tahrir is cognate to the Hebrew XRR (Het
> Resh Resh), from which we get the Mishnaic Hebrew Herut and "Benei Horin"
> (free men). I don't recall this root in the Bible.
>
> I think (but am not sure) that "Shihrur" is a modern form, using the binyan
> Shaph'el, common in Akkadian but not in Classical Hebrew, but very much used
> in Modern Hebrew (Shakhpel - replicate; Shakhtev - rewrite; Shadreg - up(or
> down)grade; and so Shahrer - make free).
>
> Karl is of course correct that Hebrew SH is often paralleled by Aramaic
> T. This is also true for Arabic, and thus Hebrew Shnayim (two) is Arabic
> Tneyn, Aramaic Tarten; Hebrew Shalosh (three) is Thalath and so on. I don't
> know enough Arabic grammar to know what binyan Tahrir is, but it's obviously
> related.
Yes, related in that they have a common root, but not superimposable on each
other. I.e., there is no correspondence between the initial ש/sh in Hebrew
and the initial ﺕ/t (ta) in Arabic. Rather am Arabic ﺙ/th (tha) corresponds
to Hebrew sh. So, Hebrew שנים/shnayim corresponds to (modern) Arabic tneyn,
but only because the latter is a development from Classical Arabic
ﺍﺛﻨﺎﻥ/(i)thnaan. So, since the initial letter of ﺗﺤﺮﻳﺮ/tahriir is ta rather
than tha, it doesn't correspond directly to Hebrew shin.
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Uzi Silber <uzisilber AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings fellow Tanakh aficionados:
>>
>> During the Arab upheaval in Cairo's Tahrir Square, reportage always
>> translated 'Tahrir' as 'Liberation'.
>> Now Tahrir does resemble the Hebrew 'shikhrur' which also means
>> liberation. I suspect the two are indeed linguistically related.
>>
>> Are they? Please advise. If indeed 'T' would be substituting for
>> 'Sh', are there other examples of this particular substitution in the
>> Mikra? I do know there are other letters that substitute for each
>> other.
--
William Parsons
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[b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur,
Uzi Silber, 11/21/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur,
K Randolph, 11/21/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur,
Yigal Levin, 11/21/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur, Will Parsons, 11/21/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur,
Yigal Levin, 11/21/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur, Petr Tomasek, 11/22/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Takhrir and Shikhrur,
K Randolph, 11/21/2011
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