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[David P Donnelly <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>]

Can the six variants of YHWH in Codex L. be discussed openly on B-Hebrew?

I would specifically like to ask questions about the Hebrew variant 
[yod-hatef segol-he-defective holem-waw-hireq-he] 
which occurs in Judges 16:28 in Codex L.

Why specifically did the Masoretes point YHWH 
with the precise same vowel points as are found in Elohiym,
in Judges 16:28?

Would a question like the one I just proposed  above be considered
linguistic or theological?

My question could certainly be considered theological,
[since Christians happen to believe that scriptures are given by
inspiration of God]
but it also might be considered totally from a linguistic point of view. 
 

The answer of course effects English Speaking Christians,
and Messianic Jews more that others,
because both groups have New Testaments  that claim that "all Scripture
is given by inspiration of God"  

Sincerely yours,

Dave Donnelly
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Subject: [b-hebrew] David Toshio Tsumura and II Samuel 7:8-16
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Dear List,

Colleague of mine sent the article below to me from a doctoral classmate of 
his
when he was at Brandeis.

"Tense and Aspect of Hebrew Verbs in 2 Samuel 7: 8-16—from the Point of 
View of
Discourse Grammar"— by David Toshio Tsumura, Tokyo, in Vetus Testamentum 60
(2010) 641-654.

"This article is a revised version of my paper read at the Hebrew Language
session of the XVth
World Congress of Jewish Studies at Jerusalem on Aug. 6, 2009. I have received
helpful and
encouraging comments from scholars such as E. L. Greenstein, G. A. Rendsburg,
Ch. Cohen,
T. Zewi, F. Polak, T. Notarius and J. N. Ford." (Footnote 1)

The article is 14 pages and here is the abstract:
"In Nathan’s second prophetic speech (2 Sam. 7:8-16), at first the flow of
narrative discourse is
carried on by the sequence of the verbal forms qtl—wayqtl—wayqtl (vs. 
8b-9a)
but, in v. 9b, the
flow is changed, if not stopped, by the sequence w-qtl . . . w-qtl . . . See 1
Sam 17:38, 2 Sam 12:16. Vs. 9b-11a is what Longacre calls a “how-it 
was-done”
procedural discourse and serves structurally as a transition from the Lord’s
past dealings with David in vs. 8b-9a to his future dealings with David in vs.
12-16. Thus, vs. 8b-9a conveys a past fact, and how it was done is explained
concretely by the “procedural” discourse in vs. 9b-11a. Such a
narrative-procedural discourse with the sequence of verbal forms wayqtl. . .
w-qtl can also be seen in 1 Sam 1:4, 7:15-16, 2 Sam 13:18, Job 1:5."

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III