Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Arnaud Fournet" <fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr>]

From: kenneth greifer
To: fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr

The discussion by you and Jack also insulted people and scholars who look 
for Noah's ark.
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I don't think somebody who is looking for Noah's ark can be a scholar or a 
scientist.
A.
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These comments were meant
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No, they were not.
Not by me in all cases.
A.
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to insult religous people who believe in the Bible more literally than 
other people. That is also not part of the list's scope. I was just 
commenting on the insults that should not be on this list. For example, 
calling the search for Noah's ark the dark side of scholarship is an 
anti-religious
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No.
Looking for Noah's ark is not far from sheer nonsense.
A.
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opinion because Noah's ark might actually exist.
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It certainly cannot exist.
It's a myth.
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Also, writing from memory, I recall someone using the word "hucksters" who 
were out for money to describe certain people and scholars who have 
different religious beliefs than you two have. I don't know what the fallacy 
is if you two insult scholars who disagree with the good side of scholarship 
that you must be part of.
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I did not use the word "huckster" (the meaning of which is fairly fuzzy to 
me) and I did not speak about "good or dark side".
A.
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Maybe the fallacy is that you can't even imagine that you broke the list's 
rules and someone less educated than you pointed it out because I took your 
comments as an insult against me, personally.
Kenneth Greifer
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I'm afraid this is your problem.
This was not an insult.
If you take dissenting points of view as insults this is your problem, not 
the problem of dissenters.
A.
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> From: fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr
> To: greifer AT hotmail.com; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] My name in ancient Hebrew
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:57:38 +0100
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kenneth greifer" <greifer AT hotmail.com>
> To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:18 PM
> Subject: [b-hebrew] My name in ancient Hebrew
>
>
> >
> > I have heard that the belief that you can count the letters of the Torah
> > and find hidden words is part of Jewish tradition. I thought on B-Hebrew
> > you can't attack other people's religious beliefs, so why are people
> > calling it part of the "dark side" of scholarship meant to make money.
> > There are religious people who believe in it, so I think it is wrong to
> > attack it on a forum for discussing Biblical Hebrew and not religous
> > beliefs of Jews and some Christians who are now doing this.
> > Why don't the commentators stop this anti-religious discussion?
> >
> > Kenneth Greifer
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>
> Anyway, people have the right to "believe" whatever they like to believe,
> especially if it does not cause any harm to others.
> If you cannot accept expressions of dissent or rejection of your 
> "beliefs",
> then you're the one who has a problem.
> Characterizing these regular expressions as "attacks" or "anti-religious" 
> is
> nothing but a fallacy.
> The only thing that is really objectionable about those Kabalistic fancies
> is that it somewhat falls beyond the scope of the list.
>
> Arnaud Fournet