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  • From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
  • To: David Kolinsky <yishalom AT sbcglobal.net>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] non-challantly reducing three-letter roots to earlier two letter roots
  • Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:10:06 -0800

David:

This whole exercise is highly speculative and goes against good
lexicography. It is a variation of the etymological error. And another
argument against it is that we don’t have data with which to verify or
falsify the speculation.

It also doesn’t account for loan words. For example, is $WM garlic connected
to %YM to place, or is it a loan word from Egyptian or another language that
just happened to sound similar? It is found only once in Tanakh.

I notice that to get some of your speculated etymologies, you go to other
languages, a no-no as far as good lexicography is concerned.

And where do you get the idea that triliteral roots can be etymologized down
to biliteral roots?

Karl W. Randolph.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:41 PM, David Kolinsky <yishalom AT sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Nir:
> Thanks for taking the time to express your doubts. I am sure my response
> will only raise more but at least we are engaging in dialogue.
> shum = garlic from (SYM = put, place) meaning readily accessible
> similar to ShaM = there (placed - readily accessible)ShaeM - name (SYM =
> put place) meaning what is placed = a label
> shmama = desert literally meaning unmoving > desolate from SYM
> shemex = fish, in Arabic SMK (from placed one on top of another >) to make
> thick, thicken; roof, ceiling, (shingled > scaled >) fish)
> shama' = to hear actually "stay put and listen" (from SM = stay put)
> shemesh = sun from SYM = stay put, placesimilar to SMS Arabic - (unmoving
> >) headstrong, balky, restivethe sun staying put on a much more obvious and
> predictable pathas opposed to YRX = moon which means traveler related to /RX
>
>
> samax = to be happy from MXH = spread outrelated: SMX - Arabic =
> magnanimous, authorize, show good will MXH - Ugaritic = with
> exuberance MXH - Akkadian - to rave, become frenzied
>
> shemen = oil from MN = (be / exude) from
> sm?ol = left literally means "weak side" from MHL = attenuate
> shemetz = trace from MWTs = (to wring out) > (last drop)
> = taint, particle, contaminant, glimpse, tiniest piece of it (Jb4:12;26;14)
> shimtzah = calumny = blemish, disgrace (Ex32:25) from taint
> shmad = extinction from MDD literally means "to draw away from" to
> extricate > to destroy related to Syriac (disengage) mislead, allow to
> be inattentive / idle, excommunicate, weakened, divided, repudiated) similar
> to \MD column (to draw up from)
> shamat=dropped, ??? I am unfamilar please give referance
> Thanks for taking the time,David Kolinsky
>
>




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