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- From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Cc: randallbuth AT gmail.com
- Subject: [b-hebrew] Pronounciation
- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:52:53 -0800 (PST)
That is a good and interesting question. The term
apears in other Semitic languages such as Aramaic and
Arabic also with an initial 'He'. It involves the vexing
problem of transmission in general.
When it comes to texts of the BH, the problems of dating
composition and redactions raise complicated challanges.
Clear diachronic developments can be detected in some
instances but not in others.
An early loanword could well have been preserved and
used by a later author or editor. A good illustration of
linguistic influence, though from another Semitic language,
are the many Ugaritic word-pairs which appeared in
BH centuries after the collapse of that kingdom.
I wish I could have had a more definite comment. It
would be interesting to see what Randall has to say
about this specific loan-word.
Uri Hurwitz Great Neck, NY
>
> hey-khal
>
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That word is very interesting.
We have in fact several phonetic snapshots of Sumerian.
S1. is reflected in Hurrian hai-galli
where h is a velar fricative
S2. is Hebrew hey-khal
with a weak laryngeal fricative.
S3. one more stage is Akkadian and Hurrian ay-akk-
where *Hay is ay with no initial at all.
ayakk-u/i is used for goddesses' temples: it's a (partly altered) Sumerian
genitive *hay-an-ak- "house-of"
S4. late stage is just conventional E- with muted-out h and ay > e.
It's intriguing to see that Hebrew has a phonetic stage which probably
reflects the end of the 3rd millennium, sometimes before Sumerian actually
became a dead language.
The attestation in Samuel I.9 sounds like one thousand years older.
I wonder how this can be explained.
Arnaud Fournet
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronunciation/Heykal - THREAD CLOSED, Yigal Levin, 01/11/2011
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