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- From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
- To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12
- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:51:33 +0100
Dear Karl,
you raised this question on last October.
Our friend Randall Buth wrote this:
* Karl's suggestion of a piel from '.y.d. is bogus Hebrew
(an impossible suggestion).*
*Psalm 31.12 is presenting 'elipsis' in its second clause.*
Were the raisons then provided (by me and others) against the possibility of
M)D as a Pi'el (*) form not convincing?
Maybe you did not read those posts?
(*) You write now "puel". Do you mean "pual"?
Kinds regards from
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
2011/1/9 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
> To All:
>
> Ps 31:12
>
>
> מכל צררי הייתי חרפה ולשכני מאד ופחד למידעי ראי בחוץ נדדו ממני
>
>
> Focussing on the two words, ולשכני מאד, I found myself following the
> context
> to read ו-ל-שכנ-י “and to my dweller” i.e. one who dwells with me,
> neighbor.
>
>
> But the second word, מאד, is a little bit more difficult. The normal
> reading
> is of “exceeding”, “very”, but in this context, is this not a puel
> participle from the same root as איד meaning “misfortune”? Doesn’t this fit
> the context better than “exceedingly”?
>
>
> Making the whole verse read, “I have become a reproach beyond all my foes,
> and to my neighbors misfortune, and dread to my acquaintances, those who
> see
> me outside fly from me.”
>
>
> Or have I made an error?
>
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
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Pere Porta
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[b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
K Randolph, 01/09/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
Pere Porta, 01/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
K Randolph, 01/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
Pere Porta, 01/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
K Randolph, 01/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
Pere Porta, 01/12/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12, K Randolph, 01/12/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
Pere Porta, 01/12/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
K Randolph, 01/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
Pere Porta, 01/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
K Randolph, 01/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ps 31:12,
Pere Porta, 01/10/2011
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