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- From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
- To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:59:56 +0200
Remark, Karl, that our word could also be (theoretically) derived from a
root ayin-waw (tum).
We find samples of this kind in Gn 18:19; 2Sa 3:10; Js 4:3; Jr 44:25...
And also from roots pe-yod: Neh 13:27; 1Ch 17:19
Heartly,
Pere Porta
2010/10/21 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
> Pere:
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Karl,
>>
>> 1. Concerning the last question in your message, yes, it looks like a
>> Hiphil in a quite similar way of "l'hapyl" (1Sa 18:25), which is from
>> 'nafal'.
>> But.... it seems that verb 'natam' is not found in Hebrew.
>> Then... the hypothesis does not work.
>>
>
> If this is from N+M, then it would be a happax legomenon. If we used the
> above argument for every happax legomenon, would we have any?
>
>>
>> 2. No relation with the last verb in Lv 11:43 (which comes from tame', to
>> be unclean)
>>
>
> Context leads to questioning this conclusion. Not a denial, just
> questioning, putting it in the uncertain column.
>
>>
>> 3. Why are you not fully accepting the usual or traditional parsing and
>> understanding of this word as a Qal Participle, plural masculine, of verb
>> להט (lahat)?
>>
>
> Context.
>
> The context indicates that we should expect to find in this place an
> infinitive with a prefixed lamed. The form we find has the lamed for the
> infinitive, and the infixed yod of a hiphil as of a pe nun verb. Hence my
> question.
>
> To be honest, I didn’t even consider להט as a possibility, as it fits the
> context neither in form nor meaning.
>
>>
>>
>> Pere Porta
>> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
>>
>> Since I don’t know any cognate languages, I raise the question to others,
> is there is a word N+M in a cognate language, and does it has a meaning that
> might fit this context?
>
> The other option, are there any alternate readings that indicate a copyist
> error?
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
--
Pere Porta
"Ei nekrói ouk eguéirontai, fágomen kai píomen áurion gar apothnéskomen"
(1Cor 15:32)
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[b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
K Randolph, 10/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
Pere Porta, 10/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57, Antonio Garcia, 10/21/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
K Randolph, 10/21/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
Pere Porta, 10/22/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
K Randolph, 10/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57, Pere Porta, 10/25/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
K Randolph, 10/25/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
Pere Porta, 10/22/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57,
Pere Porta, 10/21/2010
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